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Dear All,
I´m a Canadian PR, and work here full-time in Canada. I´m gonna get married back in my country in three months, and would like to apply Canadian visa for my wife, but not exactly sure how.
One approach is to apply for her immigration through my sponsorship, but a time estimate for that kind of immigration is about 1.5 to 2 years, which is ridiculously high; how can I wait alone that long? Another way is that she can apply for a visitor visa, and explain to ensure her return that 1) she has applied for PR but as it takes so long, she´d like to visit her husband from time to time until PR case gets closed; 2) she is employed, and don´t wanna lose her job, and that it´s just a month vacation to visit me.
The Visitor Visa approach sounds sketchy a little (may not seem logical or honest to visa officers), and I´m afraid it doesn´t work. I don´t know what to do. Any suggestions, please?
[29-03-2013,23:33]
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scorpio |
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(in reply to: Canadian Visa for my Wife)
Try for the visit visa. If it´s refused, then sponsor her for PR from her home country. Unfortunately there´s probably a good chance that the visit visa will be refused - but you can certainly try.
Note that as a PR, you must be living in Canada to sponsor her for PR and must continue living in Canada while her application is being processed.
[30-03-2013,08:17]
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Anonymous |
Canadian Visa for my Wife posting (in reply to: Canadian Visa for my Wife)
I am interested in why you think getting a vistor`s visa might not be seen as logical or honest. Is it because you are planning on not being honest. Would she actually leave after a month. The fact she is employed and doesn`t want to lose her job doesn`t really work if she is planning to give up the job to move here at some point. You asked how you could wait alone for such a ridiculously long time. The answer is like everyone else. You sound like you think you are special and entitled to bend the rules. I suggest you get married, return to Canada and file an outland application and just wait like everyone else. If you mess around, it will take a lot longer and you could end up with a refusal. And have you thought about how you are going to prove it is a genuine marriage.
[30-03-2013,16:43]
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Sabrina |
Sabrina (in reply to: Canadian Visa for my Wife)
In reply to Sabrina:
No Sabrina, it´s not like everyone else. When many can get PR within a few months, and for some it takes about 2 years or more, then it´s not like everyone else. Let me clarify a few things here: 1) We do wanna apply for her PR, no doubt; no matter how long it would take; my question was basically that is there a way she´d be able to come and pay a short visit(s) to me sooner, given that the normal PR time for our nationality and sponsorship category is at least 1.5 years, and that I can´t be the only person who goes there and pay a visit; we´re both employed with vacation limitations. 2) I haven´t tried to be cheating and dishonest. It´s interesting to me that you reply with such bias, emotion, and prejudgment while you don´t know me. I appreciate your answer to my first question about the rejection of my mother´s visa, but for this one ...?! Actually, we were naive about that application for my mother. Although we were honest in everything we said in the application, the officer didn´t get convinced we were saying the truth. It was just because the case was what it doesn´t normally look like to be, not because we were untruthful. Trying to convince the officer that someone will return doesn´t mean to try to be dishonest or bend the rules. Just because something is right and true, it doesn´t mean it should simply convince and seem logical to everyone. 3) And yes, this is a genuine marriage, and we will provide as much proof as we can in the PR application.
PS. I didn´t quite understand why you said "The fact she is employed and doesn´t want to lose her job doesn´t really work ...". I hope this wouldn´t be the case. She does want to keep her job for at least a year or so, then quit. That´s been a job she could hardly secure. I don´t know if you heard that if you keep a job just for less than a year, you´d better not mention it in your resume (it gives a bad impression about you). When she´s half-way in her job, why should she give up and not return from Canada, given that we´re really hoping for getting her PR?
[31-03-2013,20:10]
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scorpio |
(in reply to: Canadian Visa for my Wife)
There is no bias or emotion. You messed up your mother`s application. Maybe it was an accident or maybe it was intentional attempt to misrepresent. I am sure your arguments for that case made perfect sense to you but did not convince the officer. Now your argument for this case is that notwithstanding the fact that she is your wife and she will move to Canada soon anyway, your country has major human rights problems and she could stay and you could file inland, of course she will return home after her visit so her resume will say one year and not six months. Sorry, but I don`t think that will convince the visa officer.
You asked if there was a way for her to come and visit and you were told that certainly you can try for a vistor`s visa but the chances of getting it are not great so no, she probably won`t be able to come and visit. You said you didn`t see how you could wait that long and yet lots of other people wait longer. As you know the wait time depends on your country of origin and everyone knows the wait lists for everything to do with immigration sucks and complaining or suggesting it is faster for some is pointless. Your message suggests you are seeking a way around the rules to find a special or faster way. I strongly recommend that you lose that attitude and refrain from saying how ridiculously long the process is to a visa officer. That is advice not judgement. It is just not going to help your case and as I said, if you mess with it, you might end up with another refusal.
[01-04-2013,11:47]
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Sabrina |
(in reply to: Canadian Visa for my Wife)
Alright, yes, I messed up the application; but, believe it or not, that was a stupid accident (I really naively thought their separate applications without mentioning each other was fine---actually it was just some docs that kept us from applying for her at the same time. I wasn´t even analyzing or questioning the situation before application). Now, a mistake has happened and I can´t change the past, but certainly the future. I wanna be extra-careful for my wife´s application. I don´t wanna mess this up. BTW, I have still two questions: 1) Do you think if there is any way we can somehow clear the mess for my Mom´s future application, let say, in a few years from now (assuming that my Dad´s visa is expired, while he´s not come to Canada, or has come and returned as expected)? 2) For proving my marriage, other than marriage certificate, our national IDs, wedding pictures even videotapes, and printouts of months of chatting over Internet, what other docs would you think would help?
Thanks.
[01-04-2013,13:22]
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scorpio |
(in reply to: Canadian Visa for my Wife)
(Just FYI about my Mom: It´s not like she or we is/are insistent that much to have her visit us here. My Mom has visited many countries when she was young. It´s just that she´s an elderly mom all of whose kids are abroad, we thought it would be good to just have her visit us here. She could also apply for a US visa while she´s here, to go and pay a visit to my sister and her grandchildren there)
[01-04-2013,14:08]
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scorpio |
(in reply to: Canadian Visa for my Wife)
It doesn`t matter what I or anyone else thinks about your mother`s application. The visa officer didn`t buy it. At the risk of sounding critical again, your arguments all seem to back up the refusals. I think you said your mother is 64. Most 64 year olds do not consider themselves elderly. Granted some people, through bad luck or bad management, start aging when they are in their forties but I know women in the mid 80s that still go into an office and work. There is a female mayor in greater Toronto who is 92. The Queen is 86 and still going very strong and her mother (who made her last official visit to Canada at the age of 89) was active until her death at 101. Also numerous people try to bring relatives here to get free healthcare so again, saying your mother would never dream of overstaying because she is elderly may make sense to you but that doesn`t mean it will make sense to a visa officer. Also as I mentioned if your father used his visa and returned, they might reconsider and give your mother one to come separately. If your father was given a visa and didn`t use it, it also kind of supports the idea that they were planning to come together and stay.
About proving it is a real marriage, I am not an expert on that but I would recommend to consult one like Roy or at least read a lot of the threads on this forum. It is not as easy as you might think. There has been a lot of abuse and it has caused innocent people in legitimate marriages to struggle to prove it and even be refused.
[01-04-2013,18:24]
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Sabrina |
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