Inland or outland..?

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Subject: Inland or outland..?
  I have been looking over this http://cvimmigration.com/spousal.html and I am confused as to which one my Fiancee and I should be doing. We are getting married at the end of this month and I want to start the applications ASAP, but I am unsure of what one to do, and on the CIC website there is nothing that states wether they are in or out of Canada. My fiancee is living with me currently but we do understand he may have to go back to the US until everything is done. I am just not sure how to go about this. I have been told you he can live with me while this is going on, but obviously cannot work. I have printed out all of the info on the CIC website and think I am set and know what I need to do, but now I am unsure if these are the proper papers I need.

I´m hoping someone will be able to help me out and steer me in the right direction. Thanks

[06-10-2010,21:01]
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Shanna
(in reply to: Inland or outland..?)
start assembling your information.
get married
apply outland - even if he is ´visiting´ you for extended periods of time in Canada.

read the operating manuals for outland family class that are available on the CIC website. read the questions 10 times, ask your friend to put on a cynics hat and read your application- looking for inconsistencies.

[07-10-2010,13:33]
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Sharon
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Shanna

It took me along time to write that and it does explain what should be done. It tells you the options but Sharon is right read the manuals.

Think about your situation this way & walk a mile in another persons shoes!

CIC Officer is working at Vegreville Case Processing Centre were all the In-Canada Spousal Sponsorships are processed. The CIC Officer pile of files never shrinks, one after another, day after day. The CIC Officer has a mean boss pushing him/her to speed up and get more files completed, day after day. That pile of files never shrinks,it grows and grows.

Then along comes a Spousal Sponsorship application from Shanna for her (American) husband.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH the CIC Officer at Vegreville CPC screams!

What is wrong with this woman, does she have any idea that all persons are suppose to apply outside of Canada for a PR Visa?

Well I´ll teach her a lesson and send Shanna´s Spousal Sponsorship application to the local office. That means that Shanna´s Sponsorship file will not even be reviewed for two years.

Ha Ha Ha that will teach her to give me work that belongs in Buffalo RPC.

Now where should you submit? Mississauga then to Buffalo RPC

Roy
cvimmigration.com

[07-10-2010,15:46]
[**.229.194.228]
Roy
(in reply to: Inland or outland..?)
Thanks very much. I am just very scared of the outcome of it all. I know How I feel and how he feels but I do understand I have to make CIC believe also and I am willing to do what it takes to do this.

The applications and paperwork/manuals I have printed from the CIC website say "Family class, sponsorship of a spouse...living outside Canada" Part 1: The sponsors quide and Part 2: the Immagrants guide. Are this the ones for "Outland"? I printed out the 30 something paged manuals and ALL of the applications There are 2 I am assuming he does NOT need to fill out. Him Nor I have ANY kids, so I´m assuming he does NOT need to fill out the "additional family information one" and we are not in a Common law, so he would NOT have to fill out the Statutory declaration of common law union, cause we will be Married by the time the applications go in.

And what would I do about his medical and police checks? He was born in Michigan, but he resided in Virginia for the past 10 years, he has been with me for around 6 months, but his passport was not scanned at the border. Roy, you did mention to me that it is cheaper to do the medical in Canada, but I read that it has to be a certain many miles or something away from where you live? Is this true?

Thanks very much Roy, I would have no idea to send my application to Mississaugua..and will they send it to Buffalo? I´m assuming Buffalo is step 2.

Thanks again for your help, Sharon and Roy.

[07-10-2010,18:23]
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Shanna
(in reply to: Inland or outland..?)
Family class applications are 2 part. First they make sure you qualify to sponsor. then they look at the application to make sure he qualifies.

Don´t be scared, just be patient and detailed. He will need US police clearances for Virginia. The medical has to be done by an CIC approve physician. There is a list on the website.

this is the manual you want to use as you are preparing your forms. look at the questions they ask and why so that you are sure to provide the information they are looking for.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf

Pretend you are a lawyer that has to present sufficient evidence that there is no question that your relationship is real, (that does not mean pictures of you having sex) that means letters, ticket stubs, photos, etc. proof that in reality, coming to Canada is of no economic advantage for him - this is all about love.

make sense?

[07-10-2010,19:48]
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Sharon
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Thanks Sharon. It makes complete sense. For tye medical exam can that be done in Canada? I will take a lookat the manuals. The applications I stated above, are they not the right ones? And can he get his police check done from Canada? So for things like phone records do you just put a copy of the earliest call or all of the records? We talked for something like 5-6 hours a night 6nights a week. So there are alot of records. Thanks again for all of your help.
[07-10-2010,21:08]
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Shanna
(in reply to: Inland or outland..?)
the medical can be done in Canada by an authorized physician. The guides you are looking at are the right ones but God Bless Canada, they are required to make public the regulations that the immigration officials use to adjudicate your application so there is no guessing about what A+B=´s

Phone bills, don´t send them all. You are showing that the relationship is enduring. Pull the earliest you can find, pull one from a few months later. Pull some sample emails with dates on them - the older the better. How about when you first consider the idea of getting married - any email or cards? How about some letters that are still in the envelope with the postmark? Plane tickets? joint bank account or credit card? Photos with friends and family? Then you will add in your marriage certificate, some casual wedding photos (people have been known to stage wedding pictures for CIC). If he has good job prospects...all the better because in reality - he does not need you to come to Canada if he wanted to.

One piece of evidence does not clench the deal but the body of evidence proves all beyond any doubt.

All they want to know is that he is who he claims to be, he is not bringing eboli into the country, and he is not using you to gain entrance and status in Canada.

[07-10-2010,22:00]
[**.154.245.217]
Sharon
(in reply to: Inland or outland..?)
Ok, so I have looked over the Manual and from what I see it is basically explaining the things we need to send to show them we are genuine, but I am still not sure if the applications I told you about earlier are the right ones or not.

As for the Medical, does this have to be done and sent with the app´s or is this something they will ask for later one in the process? And will he be able to aquire his Police check from Canada or will he have to go back to Virginia to get it?

Thanks again.

Oh and how are we notified of whats going on? And for things like cards *birthdays, Valentines* do you photocopy the card, or will we recieve everything back once it is processed?

I know I have A LOT of questions, but I am VERY unsure of everything, this seems like the only place to get LEGIT answers.

[08-10-2010,00:50]
[**.253.62.183]
Shanna
(in reply to: Inland or outland..?)
there are a lot of family class applications over at roadtocanada.com that may be helpful as well.

medicals are done up front. some people say you get stuff back but personally, I would opt for colour photo copies. Not sure what Roy thinks on that subject. I am not 100% sure about the police clearance procedure. No doubt someone else will chime in.

you are downloading the outland or out of canada family class documents. Files go to Missisauga.

we will help any way we can.


[08-10-2010,02:48]
[**.154.245.217]
Sharon
(in reply to: Inland or outland..?)
As for the app´s, There are 2 I am assuming he does NOT need to fill out. Him Nor I have ANY kids, so Im assuming he does NOT need to fill out the "additional family information one" and we are not in a Common law, so he would NOT have to fill out the Statutory declaration of common law union, cause we will be Married by the time the applications go in. Am I correct?

I hope someone *Roy maybe* will chime in about the Police clearence in Canada. I am assuimg it has to be done in the US as the fingerprints have to be done on FBI paper or by FBI, something like that.

[08-10-2010,18:27]
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Shanna
(in reply to: Inland or outland..?)
logic prevails. guidebook is pretty clear. google is your friend. google immigration US police clearances - see what you find.
[08-10-2010,18:54]
[**.154.245.217]
Sharon