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Living in Canada I can tell all who reads this forum that not one politician will ever touch our Universal Health Care System.
Making the Healthy pay for the unhealthy is a logical approach.
Making couples with no children pay school taxes is a logical approach.
When we work together of course all benefit.
Could the system be a little better yes! I would like to see all medicines have a flat fee like England. I would like that when your ill a Doctor makes a house call like in France, Denmark, Ukraine etc. etc. Far better then sitting in a waiting room with a bunch of infectious others.
I am happy in Ontario that a Drug Store can not sell cigarettes. I am disappointed that they sell Halloween Candy, Christmas decorations, Lottery Tickets, etc. That the store is open 24 hours but not all Pharmacy are.
I live east of Toronto and the area is growing by leaps and bounds and Hospital beds are at a premium. Space to expand existing Hospitals is at a premium. Governments sometimes can not keep up.
There is never a thought in Ontario were I am familiar that when your ill that you will not be able to see a Doctor even if you have to go to a walk in clinic.
Canadian´s focus on preventative medicine and actually end up taking far fewer sick days then our neighbors to the south. it is suppose to be $200.00 cheaper to build the same car in Canada then in the States due to our health car system.
Too bad they never pass on the savings to the consumer.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[23-07-2009,09:23]
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Roy |
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(in reply to: Health Care Canada)
Glad to hear this information... I think that´s the way it should be. We´re only now catching up with these ideas and approaches, and slowly moving away from the idea of the provider (doctor) viewing the patient as profit center.
On a previous note and thread, the VA may not always have had the best reputation in the past, but it now provides a significant segment of the population with guaranteed quality coverage that the private system would never consider providing.
Services and fees for doctors, nurses, pharmacy, and facilities are all planned in advance annually on a fixed pre-negotiated payment schedule. It´s a fully government run system. All who work there are proud of it´s efforts, accomplishments, and improvements. And it works where supposedly this approach would not be acceptable. In a way, a version of HealthCanada.
[23-07-2009,16:33]
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Richard |
(in reply to: Health Care Canada)
There is nothing wrong with viewing other countries methods of delivering health care.
In Canada our drug stores have gone totally the way of the States. They do not even consider what a Pharmacy should be nor do they look at the European model.
What is a Pharmacist? A pill counter, NO! Only recently do you see ton US and Canadian TV the importance of ones Pharmacist.
In Ontario and probably Canada the largest Drug Store chain is Shoppers Drug Mart. Every store is the same design, same isle layout, etc. The Pharmacy itself is not even 5% of the store space. Over the counter burn ointment, aspirin, cough medicine etc. amounts to another 5% of total space.
Now stuff that will make you smell more pleasing from perfume to shower gel 40& of the store. Candies, Pop and Junk Food 40% of the store.
How much does the store pay the Pharmacist or does the Pharmacist pay the store?
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[24-07-2009,06:53]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Health Care Canada)
Our health care is pretty as far as I concern. Does it need improvement?
Sure.....
You don´t have to be sick to get better.
I was talking to my mom the other day and she was telling that down in Fort Lauderdale, there is fair share of commercials on TV about this medi-care stuff. It is funny to see how the US always compares their health care system with Canada even on TV and how the Canadians do the same thing but none of these two countries will compare themselfs with the European or Japanese health care which is more organized far more efficient and it seems to keep people happy in those countries.
Just my morning observation. Gotta go... I am brewing beer today!
Cheers,
Bill
[24-07-2009,12:20]
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Bill |
(in reply to: Health Care Canada)
This healthcare debate always eludes me; I have lived nearly two decades in the US before moving to Canada and been here almost 4 years. I don´t have a personal doctor here but never had one in the US either. The primary healthcare lies in the hands of the individual, barring genetic diseases. If you eat healthy and work out regularly and maintain balanced attitudes toward the society... you probably don´t need hospitals until you get very old and develop geriatric problems. The one thing that i like most in Canada is the actual money you pay from your paycheck from month to month toward premiums... mine are about 50 bucks (supplemental insurance) here versus nearly 200 in the US. This smaller number impresses me. Now don´t start about higher taxes... you get used to the taxation level within a few months after the arrival here. I hate to literally write out checks every month knowing fully well you haven´t used the medical facilities even once in last 10 years or more. The last time I visited a clinic was when I had to go through the medicals for CIC. Luckily, it cost me only 250 bucks.
Anyways, people need to explore way and means o fliving a healthy lifestyle and cut down the need for medical visits!
[24-07-2009,14:53]
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Great Helper |
(in reply to: Health Care Canada)
I have had the horrible opportunity to witness a 34 year old healthy male need massive medical attention through no fault of his own.
If he were living almost anywhere else in the world, he would either be dead or bankrupt. By my estimation he is at 3 million in health care and still counting for the duration of his life. Never once did he wait for medical treatment. Never once has there been a question if a procedure should be done because of cost. Never once has he had to choose between food or medical treatment. He has moved between Alberta and BC at the taxpayers expense because his wife believed there was better specific care for him in Alberta. No debate required.
Can the un-insured of America say the same? Waiting for a week for a specialist sure beats not getting treatment at all. No, it is not perfect. Yes, there is significant room for improvement. Europe has its problems too. All I know is that even with all its flaws and deficiencies... I would not trade it for anything.
[24-07-2009,16:05]
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Sharon |
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