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perhaps it is time we meet half way on this US/Canada debate.
1) Canada is not for everyone. It depends on your likes, dislikes, tolerances, adaptability, and skills.
2) Canada is not perfect, never claims to be and never will be.
3) for the majority of immigrants, Canada proves to be a satisfactory decision. There will always be those who are disappointed.
4)the US is not for everyone. It depends on your likes, dislikes, tolerances, adaptability, and skills.
5) The US is not perfect, never claims to be and never will be.
6) for the majority of immigrants, the US proves to be a satisfactory decision. There will always be those who are disappointed.
7)Canada and the United States are considered in the top 10 places to live on virtually every measurement scale out there. In some cases, the criteria is different but in every case... the scores are close and both countries rank well.
8)pitting one country against the other is silly. it is like comparing a Volkswagon to a Honda. Both are good cars but some like one more than the other. Either product (country) is a good choice depending on one´s personal preferences.
9)Creating generic statements based on a small sampling is not only bad statistical analysis, it is fodder for an arguement
10)Refusing to acknowledge the human factor in anyone´s immigration success or failure is to dismiss the biggest variable out there. If a person is struggling in their home country to find appropriate employment etc. - who´s to say the barriers/challenges will be any different in another country - any country.
11)an unhappy or pessimistic person is unhappy and pessimistic regardless of address.
12) the US/Canada debate does not have a difinitive conclusion and therefore is pointless. Being entrenched in one opinion or the other is also pointless regardless of what excuse you use to hold it. remember the Volkswagon and Honda.
13) if people are wanting to live in another country, it is their own responsibility to measure their strenths, weaknesses, priorities and tolerances against the options available to them.
14)if you chose the Honda and discovered that you preferred the Volkswagon. Good for you. That does not make you the ultimate authority on Hondas.
[24-11-2007,19:09]
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Sharon |
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(in reply to: to Raj and DC)
what would happen if every day you sat outside a Honda dealership and told every customer that was walking in the door - ´buy a Volkswagon - ALL Hondas are a piece of junk?´
do you think the Honda lovers would tell you where to stick your Volkswagon? Do you think the staff at the dealership would grow frustrated and impatient with your rants after about the 3rd day?
Something to think about... a person can test drive Canada for $15,000. $1,000 in fees, a plane ticket and $12,000 for living expenses. That is less financial risk than buying the wrong make of car and yet people choose a $25,000 car in an afternoon and golly gee - you still needed to repair it, put gas in it, and after 8-9 years the car is worth zero.
[24-11-2007,19:33]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: to Raj and DC)
Sharon, you´re stewing too much over this, I see. No convincing these guys, as decent as they are. They´ve found their nirvana. On day they may appreciate these points.
[24-11-2007,19:51]
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Richard |
(in reply to: to Raj and DC)
ya, I know but it bugs me.
[24-11-2007,19:56]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: to Raj and DC)
I fully agree with Richard, there is nothing do or die in this issue. I never understand why this issue is taken like a holy war.
I never claim that any place on the earth is paradise or beyond any flaws. I personally know many happy families in both USA/Canada.
But yes, if any professional wants to know the comparative prospects, I would give my opinion with good reassons. And Yes, without stating my own personal experience. That is my right by any civilized scale and I NEVER ask anybody to refrain from positive comments about Canada or negative about USA. I never started any posting about negatives about Canada or tried to sell USA. I have good research in this issue and I can easily create enough mess in this site by creating a horror picture of Canada. If anyone can show that then at this time I would quit writing. I only speak up when this issue comes. USA doesn´t need to be advertized or send their ministers for immigrant hunting.
[24-11-2007,21:38]
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Departed_Canadian |
(in reply to: to Raj and DC)
Agree with DC
USA does not need to be advertised. It still attracts the most people and has a lot more job opportunities.
USA/Canada ... no need for holy war, there will be always good and bad in both and it remains in people hands, opinions, experience ... immigration is usually a choice so it should be thought carefully.
It is remarkable that after all the bad luck that happened to DC, he never said anything bad about USA or Canada. he is rather knowlegable about both countries and that makes his presence here very valuable. Same for Richard who is in the ´opposite" situation. Those two are a good balance that anyone can learn from.
Where else can we learn all these immigration-related issues than from those who have the experience and knowledge ??
I am glad that this forum exists for giving such good learning opportunities and interesting debates. I am sure Sharon would agree with that.
So peace now ?
[24-11-2007,22:07]
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CBV333 |
(in reply to: to Raj and DC)
you may wish to go back and review your old posts.
[24-11-2007,22:12]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: to Raj and DC)
Yes I said that USA is bad I am sure I said that .... because it applies to my personal case, for me it is bad.
That is based on my personal view.
But my "philosophical" view on this is that no country is good or bad. It lies on the eyes of the beholder.
Therefore Canada/USA debate is somehow pointless.
But agreed Sharon I must have said USA is bad, for me it is, that does not mean it is bad for others
[24-11-2007,22:47]
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CBV333 |
(in reply to: to Raj and DC)
CBV--- sorry, that remark was for DC. Your comments are always more than fair and balanced.
[24-11-2007,23:01]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: to Raj and DC)
Ok ...Sharon ...thanks ...
Still it is true that I said USA is bad ... human gets blinded by their own experience and it alters their judgement. I should not say USA is bad ... but bad for me!
I can´t wait to leave and land in Canada. As you said, waiting is harder than applying ... seems this background check takes forever.
[24-11-2007,23:21]
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CBV333 |
(in reply to: to Raj and DC)
SXDC is right. Why must we always wage this endless debate? It all depends on one´s personal goals and priorities. Canada is right for some, while USA for others. This one-upmanship is getting to be pointless.
Let´s debate politics (my favorite topic). Otherwise, frankly, I´d rather hear some of the Canadians here talk about topics us outsiders are not familiar with: i.e, the parliamentary system, provincial elections, political divisions called "ridings", what´s the RCMP´s role in society, the rise of the Green Party, what´s with the Governor General?, the Mulroney scandal, etc.
Afterall, this is a Canada immigration forum, not a USA
forum, as someone recently pointed out.
By the way, I still find it curious (but acceptable) that those here deciding that Canada is not for them and have since left, are happily giving directions and advice to those desiring to come to Canada.
[24-11-2007,23:43]
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Richard |
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