Canadian politics 101

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Subject: Canadian politics 101
this is a very interesting quiz. You select how you view different issues and it tells you at the end which candidate/party has the most in agreement with your answers.

Interesting enough - out of 12 issues... no immigration question.

http://www.votebyissue.org/cbc/q.aspx?q=3

[18-12-2005,18:45]
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Sharon
(in reply to: Canadian politics 101)
Not an entirely scientific quiz, but interesting nonetheless.

Also interesting that it left me exactly where I started, torn between the Liberals and NDP with Harper a distant third.

[18-12-2005,19:32]
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typo
(in reply to: Canadian politics 101)
there you go! and I am reverse! torn between the Liberals and the Conservatives with the NDP a CLOSE third! what does that tell you - I am confused????!
[18-12-2005,20:05]
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Sharon
(in reply to: Canadian politics 101)
Confusion ?

Welcome to Politics !

:-)

[18-12-2005,20:38]
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CT
(in reply to: Canadian politics 101)
Funny thing is, I might actually have considered the Tories if it wasn´t for Harper.

To steal a quote from a poster on another forum, I´d rather have a leader from a party which squandered $100 million in public funds than one who´d preside over 100 body bags being flown home from an illegal war in Iraq.

What gets my goat is that after pillorying Chretien, then going on US TV to say he supported Bush, he now claims he would not have sent Canadian troops to Iraq.

[18-12-2005,20:51]
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typo
(in reply to: Canadian politics 101)
did you watch the part of the debate when Harper quoted the US ambassador´s book suggesting Martin wanted to send troups to Iraq?? I watched a news report later and they read the section Harper mentioned. No doubt about the accusation.

What we now know about the situation in Iraq is very different than the days the US was singing in the UN. I AGREE, we should have never gone there - but hind sight is what makes the issue as obvious as it is now.

It is a bit of a joke you know. How many soldiers do we actually have in Canada? I think the majority of the army is already in Afghanistan (I think it is something like 500), and we had no planes to get them there - we had to rent them! we have 2 submarines that don´t work and a few canoes. Canada could not send troups to anything - never mind Iraq even if ALL parties said yes!

[18-12-2005,21:19]
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Sharon
(in reply to: Canadian politics 101)
It´s not quite what Harper said it was. The actual situation was regarding Martin sending Canadian troops to TRAIN Iraqi defence personnel. A little different from fighting there, IMHO. Martin actually responded to Harper in the followup question, and the CBC analyst in the RealityCheck after the debate backed Martin.

And the issue in this case is not really about how many troops we have (though that´s a joke, I agree), but whether we should have joined Bush´s war.

I´m not sure what opinions were like at the time in your part of the country (I´m guessing you´re in western Canada), but here in Ontario, it was solidly anti-war - people saw through Bush right from the start.

[18-12-2005,22:09]
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typo
(in reply to: Canadian politics 101)
Here´s the Martin quote the Tories have been pushing:

"I really think Canada should get over to Iraq as quickly as possible."

Here´s what Martin actually said, according to the CBC:

"I really think Canada should get over to Iraq as quickly as possible. There´s a huge need for front-line medical professionals. There´s a huge need for policing. And there´s a huge need for infrastructure rebuilding."

And then, again quoting CBC:

In December 2004 after the Bush visit to Canada, Martin was pushed by CNN interviewer Wolf Blitzer to agree to commit Canadian troops to Iraq at some point. He dodged the question even when it was repeated twice, saying Canada had enough commitments in Afghanistan, Haiti and the Sudan.

Finally he said: "We did not agree with the invasion of Iraq," adding "once that was done, once we´re into the situation where we want to create a democracy in Iraq, take those elections and rebuild Iraq [then], as far as I´m concerned, we are at one with the United States."

[18-12-2005,23:06]
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typo
(in reply to: Canadian politics 101)
are you kidding??? BC is far left of the rest of the country. Anti war sentiment was strong in BC. Don´t forget we are a bunch of pot smoking draft doggers out here. (kidding)

I saw a program a few nights ago where they were profiling a Canadian soldier currently in Iraq doing that very thing you speak about - training troops. wonder how he got there.

to be perfectly honest - I don´t like any of them but as a citizen I feel compelled to exercise a obligation that many folks on this forum never get a chance to do - make a difference with my vote. My guy lives in a country where his president has been in power for 18 years and gets elected with 99% of the vote every time because there is no opposition. You should hear what he said when I suggested we don´t know who is going to win!

I cannot vote on one issue - I feel like I must take the whole package of policies and decide what I think is good for myself, my family and my country. wish I could cherry pick like I have suggested before, but it is not possible. The only good thing about any of this is that we can be assured of a strong opposition to hold the government accountable and we must go to the polls again in 5 years or less. Whoever wins is going to be forced to have a very cautious rule.

[18-12-2005,23:09]
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Sharon
(in reply to: Canadian politics 101)
If I was given the right to vote I would have been stumped too. At the debate I was tallying off points for all three candidates till I eventually lost track and my head was a jumble of tally strikes (should have had a pen & paper ready). I guess that´s the only way Id figure it out. I was secretly admiring Duceppe..but only untill the segment on separation began. It´s frustrating because it´s so hard to trust to anyone anymore. How are we to know who is actually going to deliver on their promises? Ontarians are especially weary after the experience of voting in (pointy head) McGuinty.

The other thing I dont understand is people complaining about the election affecting their holidays. It´s not like Christmas will be cancelled this year because of the election. It´s a privilege to have an election, at Christmas or at any other time of year, when in so many countries this privilige is non-existant.

[19-12-2005,01:00]
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Candice
(in reply to: Canadian politics 101)
Debate discussion here very interesting and informative to this U.S. PR applicant. I´ve been fascinated though by the delicate balancing act of the relationship with the current Bush regime. Mr. Martin apparantly is keeping his distance and it appears Harper is as well.

I heard a Canadian caller on CNN´s Larry King program paraphrasing a recent Martin comment on U.S. foreign policy that the U.S. is ignoring world perceptions and needs to better cooperate with international efforts. I also think the upcoming (2007) U.S. passport requirements for Canadians entering the U.S. evidence of further strain.

[19-12-2005,13:58]
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Richard