best business school in Canada for undergrad...

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Subject: best business school in Canada for undergrad...
I´ll be graduating from college and getting my diploma next year and then I plan to go to university for my undergrad in business - marketing to be specific.

I just wondered what you all think are the best business schools in Canada. Obviously UofT has one of the best but who else? Thanks! :D

McGill (in reply to: best business school in Canada for undergrad...)
McGill, McGill, McGill is by far the best business school in Canada...not only it´s a great business school, but you´ll also be in Montreal which is a million times more fun than Toronto, or any other city in Canada for that matter.

Greg Veler
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Greg, you read my mind! McGill is actually one of the schools Im going to apply to. I LOVE Montreal! Im a huge Habs fan, and everything about the city is amazing. I cant stand Toronto and the snobby way people there act.

I also heard U of Alberta has an excellent bus. program.

McGill/Alberta (in reply to: best business school in Canada for undergrad...)
Glad to hear it - I hope you´ll end up at McGill Management. Since I´ve just graduated from this faculty I can confirm it´s top spot in the rankings - the profs. + facilities are really amazing here. Especially since that $22 million donation - the whole building has just undergone renovations. So this is the place to go to if you want a great education with from a school with an amazing reputation (that´s one of McGill´s major strengths over other schools) coupled with such a fun city (st. laurent + crescent) filled with so many hot girls (4 major universities in town). And in general, the people are much friendlier than in Toronto.

Actually I am thinking of heading to Alberta for my job/MBA, I don´t know much about their business school, but Alberta is a pretty sweet place - I´d still recommend McGill though, just because of Montreal would be more fun.

Let me know if you have any specific questions about McGill Management.

Greg Veler
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ah the girls, thats a key component in my decision making haha. And yet, McGill and Montreal in general still win out over every other city in Canada.

How good is the acceptance rate for the Business Managment program there? Iv heard at some other uni´s that bus. programs are the hardest to get into due to their popularity. If I´m flying in from college with a GPA around 2.8-3.2, do I have good chances?

Also, how hard is it to find a decent place to live that cost´s no more than $700/month? Id rather not stay at res. haha.

Montreal (in reply to: best business school in Canada for undergrad...)
Ah, I totally forgot about that - Montreal is also one of the cheapest cities in North America and this applies to tuition as well. Not only the restos here are cheap, good and give you huge portions, so is the rent. You can get a very good apartment in McGill Ghetto (neighbourhood closest to McGill - 5-10 minutes away on foot) for $650, if you are willing to go further away, then it´ll be even cheaper. I was offered a studio apartment for the summer @ $350 in the Ghetto, saw offers at $450, now renting for $500. So it´s very easy to find a cheap place, but heads up for the usually mandatory 12 months lease.

When I applied to McGill Management 4 years ago, the competition was 8 applicants to 1 spot, and I think the minimum average required was 89% - I am not too sure how that translates into GPA.

Girls here are many hotties here and I find they tend to dress so much better than other parts of the country (namely Toronto).

Good luck and feel free to ask more questions.

Greg Veler
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Those are great prices! For something comperable in Toronto, your looking at a min. of $800.

What about jobs? My french is horrid. How easy would it be to find a job there that doesn´t require someone to be bilingual?

Jobs (in reply to: best business school in Canada for undergrad...)
Well the only drawback would be that for most jobs you need to be bilingual, but there are a number of jobs for anglophones as well...I think that McGill has it´s own job program....maybe it´s called workstudy...either way, if you work for the uni, then you only need English.

Greg Veler
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hmm... I guess I could always take some french courses in the mean time. I was checkin around and alot of jobs seem to only require basic, minimal french understanding rather than being 100% fluent in both. And Im sure its easy to pick up the language once your surrounded by it 24/7 while living there. Did you know any when you first started going to McGill? How much have you learned since graduating?
French (in reply to: best business school in Canada for undergrad...)
Well it would depend on the job you want - I am sure there are plenty of jobs where you need to speak only basic French, but at the same time it´ll probably be harder to get a job as a waiter or something. Either way, if it´ll motivate/help you learn French, then it´s great...there are so many great post-graduation jobs for bilinguals in Canada (eg. the federal government, etc) I spoke French fairly well when I came to McGill, but haven´t spoken a word since....Montreal downtown/McGill Ghetto is very English, so it´s hard to, I can´t understand a bleedin´ thing the Quebecois are saying (because of their accent). Either way, McGill has some great language courses?.you can do a minor in French?or just take couple French courses as electives...
Greg Veler
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