Top engineering schools: July 2008

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Subject: Top engineering schools: July 2008
Top Canadian Universities for Engineering:
July 2008

1. University of Toronto
2. University of Waterloo
3. McGill University
4. University of British Columbia
5. University of Alberta
6. University of Western Ontario
Queen?s University
8. McMaster University
9. University of Calgary
10. Universit? de Montr?al
Carleton University
12. University of Victoria
13. Concordia University
14. Dalhousie University
15. University of Saskatchewan
16. University of Ottawa
Universit? Laval
18. University of New Brunswick
University of Manitoba
20. Universit? de Sherbrooke
21. University of Windsor
22. Ryerson University
23. Memorial University of Newfoundland
24. Simon Fraser University
25. University of Ontario Institute of Technology
Universit? de Moncton

[11-07-2008,11:37]
Humble
(in reply to: Top engineering schools: July 2008)
Catalyst Canada released its comprehensive survey of visible minorities in the Canadian workforce, which revealed a perceived glass ceiling that prevents immigrants and other non-whites from advancing beyond mid-level positions.

In a fluid, mobile global economy that allows the most skilled migrants and their educated children to cherry-pick the best jobs in the world, perception is everything.

"If Canada doesn?t want the brightest computer programmers, science PhDs, doctors and financial experts there are a hundred other countries that do," says Myer Siemiatycki, director of Ryerson University?s graduate program in immigration and settlement studies.

"Canada is gaining a reputation overseas as a place that?s not as friendly to immigrants as people like to think. And, now, immigrant patterns and opportunities aren?t what they used to be."

The historical view of newcomers destined to toil for generations before gaining a foothold in their new country has been replaced by what Kenny Zhang, senior research analyst for the Asia Pacific Foundation, calls the signal effect, "which means a person with high human capital probably has a better potential return on that capital (wage) in their home country or their parents? home country."

Zhang says that based on his research, "the situation in Canada and other parts of the world is that immigrants are now reassessing their opportunities and moving to other countries or returning to the countries where they came from. Immigrants are much more educated and mobile than in previous times."

Zhang says 675,000 Canadians have moved to Asia alone ? the majority over the last decade ? and that figure doesn?t include those who left the country before getting their citizenship.

"The numbers are soaring," says Don DeVoretz, a professor of economics at Simon Fraser University who has studied the trend of immigrant flight for over 10 years. "Hong Kong, India and the U.S. are the most popular destinations.

"I did a study to find out who is leaving and it?s the best and the brightest, immigrants and those born in Canada. The research shows they do much better than those they left behind."

Zhang agrees.

"Even (the) Canadian-born are taking advantage of the mobility of the global workplace. "I know a guy, a brilliant guy who lived here and got his PhD. He worked here at the foundation for a few months. He found a job in Toronto, and was very active in the business community, but wasn?t satisfied with the opportunities at his workplace. He went to China and is now the chief investment officer of one of the largest Chinese insurance companies.

"There?s a glass ceiling here, so more and more Canadians are going to India and China, especially. (Those countries are) newcomers in the world market, with huge emerging economies. They?re looking to the diaspora overseas, for people that have been educated in the U.S. or Canada. The opportunities those educated immigrants or second-generation professionals can?t get here are being handed to them in Asia and other parts of the world."

http://www.thestar.com/article/238305

[26-07-2008,04:38]
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[10-08-2008,11:45]
Alexandar
Could not agree more (in reply to: Top engineering schools: July 2008)
I could not agree more with the list; however, I do not agree with its interpretation. It is not "the best engineering schools in Canada and then the list goes from 1 to 26.
Instead, one should look at this this way:

******** EXCELLENT ENGINEERING SCHOOLS ********
1. University of Toronto
2. University of Waterloo
3. McGill University
4. University of British Columbia
5. University of Alberta
6. University of Western Ontario
7. Queen?s University

********* OK ENGINEERING SCHOOLS *****************
8. McMaster University
9. University of Calgary
10. Universit? de Montr?al
Carleton University
12. University of Victoria
14. Dalhousie University

******** AVOID THESE SCHOOLS (!!) *********************
13. Concordia University
15. University of Saskatchewan
16. University of Ottawa
17. Universit? Laval
18. University of New Brunswick
19. University of Manitoba
20. Universit? de Sherbrooke
21. University of Windsor
22. Ryerson University
23. Memorial University of Newfoundland
24. Simon Fraser University
25. University of Ontario Institute of Technology
26. Universit? de Moncton

I did my undergrad in a school from the 1st category and decided to do my Masters in CS in University of Ottawa (I thought it was the Silicon Valley of the North). It has turned out to be one of the worst mistakes in my life. There are SO MANY students at PhD level who cannot tell you time/space complexity of an algorithm if you describe it in pseudo-code; there are students who have not heard of "P vs. NP" (let alone that they would be able to recognize an NP problem). I could go on and on ...


[10-08-2008,12:05]
Denis



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