not an engineer? why not just kill yourself?

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Subject: not an engineer? why not just kill yourself?
if you are an arts student you are a failure and you should cut yourself
[20-08-2006,17:42]
Anonymous
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how can I cut myself? I´m an art student! How do you use any tools?
[20-08-2006,17:48]
Anonymous
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Enjoy engineering school while it lasts. You know those parties you go to now? Full of guys drinking beer, playing video games and hitting on the rare fugly girlfriend-of-a-friend´s-friend who shows up? That´s the best game you´ll ever get. Life goes downhill from there. I know because i am an engineer.
[20-08-2006,19:48]
Anonymous
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geeez what´s with these ppl and thinking that the whole world wants to become an engineer. if the whole world became engineers it would be pretty boring and you wouldn´t feel special OP
[20-08-2006,21:06]
Anonymous
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There are already too many engineers. Unless you get your prof designation you are easily replaced by any of the thousands of engineers from Asia. To have job security you must develop other skills like learning to write (i mean spell) and communicate (i mean ass kiss). It is not a exciting life even if you choose to work in exciting places. I wish i had a math or physics BS.
[20-08-2006,21:14]
Anonymous
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anyone who claims to be an engineer that wishes they had a math or physics degree is either joking, or actually an arts student posing as engineer.
[20-08-2006,21:18]
Anonymous
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oh and by the way, immigrants dont do near as well in canada as born and raised canadians. They just dont have the communication and social skills.

As much as you guys like to pretend that engineers are socially awkward loners, it just isnt true. OH and life gets better, much better... 52K in your first job, thats sweet. Have fun paying for an apartment a car and paying off your $40,000 student loan on a $30,000 salary you artsy fag.

[20-08-2006,21:22]
Anonymous
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IS BILL GATE AN ENGINEER? NO
IS WARREN BUFFET AN ENGINEER? NO
IS DONALD TRUMP AN ENGINEER? NO
IS ANYONE COOL AN ENGINEER? NO
IS ANYONE FAMOUS AN ENGINEER? NO
IS ANYONE NOT UNCOOL AN ENGINEER? NO
IS ANYONE RICH AN ENGINEER? NO

Have fun with a lifetime 9-5 job working with your hands (ooo, exciting, baby) and eating shit from your boss, who by the way will be either an art graduate or don´t even have a degree.

[20-08-2006,21:28]
Anonymous
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I am a engineer, chem from uoft. Maybe I am spoiled but 50.000 isn´t much money in Toronto. I make more than that now and live comfortably but I do wish i did a BS in maths/physics like my friends, most of them have better jobs, pay, hours, employers.

I know engineers from China nad India and yes the communication skills are what determines how far they go but it also means they work cheap. Remember two we only get the best and brightest of them. My coworker is from Beijing and he writes better then the artsies here.

There is more to life then your starting paycheck which is easily matched or beaten by other science careers. Maybe engineers from other schools living in other cities are partying playboys. In Toronto at least it goes downhill after school. I dont know why you are so proud to make $52000-100000. You will learn how disappointing life is when you measure it in dollars.

[20-08-2006,21:50]
Anonymous
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yes artsy... engineers work with their hands, we repair engines obviously.

50K is alot of money for a 22 year old with no work experience, physics majors do not get 50K, math majors do not get 50K. The only program that comes close is comp sci.

On a serious note, math and physics grads normally do not make near as much as engineers unless of course your comparing a PHD in physics or math to a BAS.c in eng. Your friends must be alot smarter than you. Trust me pal, if your not happy with the money you have right now, you would be extremely dissapointed with a science or math degree. But then again you are probably that bitter Telcos employee posing as an engineer.

[20-08-2006,22:27]
Anonymous
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^ lol, an 18 years old moron just entering school thinks he know much more than a guy who has been working since ever and has much more experience.
[20-08-2006,22:32]
Anonymous
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I never said engineers hang out at the playboy mansion or anything.. but the guys who work the hardest tend to party the hardest. By the way, arent engineers supposed to be notorious for throwing the craziest parties? If you were to buisy to have a good time in university its too bad, but dont assume that everyone was like you. The way you talk it sounds like certain things are missing from your life, dont try to blame it on your engineering education. Grow up, no university program is going to mend your shitty social life, or like get you a girlfriend or whatever you expected it to do. Engineering is not an escort service or somthing.. now go buy yourself a mail order life and get out of my profession.
[20-08-2006,22:46]
Anonymous
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No I am a real engineer not a telecom. I would not chose computer science over engineering, it is worse field for job security and pay. I do not compare engineering to english or history because without a phd you are a librarian or customer service rep after school. Maybe my frinds´ experiences are not the average but i dont know the average pay for theoretical sciences. Compare engineering to the military. It is better to be a engineer in the army then a private but a private might rise to general through opportunities but the engineer maybe never above major and to hit that is statistically like the lottery. Engineering jobs are usually applied and in demand but theoretical sciences drive engineering and without a MSc a engineer is a worker. A math degree is great for any field but a engineering degree limits you to certain fields and companies. My friends are smart and maybe not average, i am humble so maybe i am average and would not be successful but my point engineering is not the best. To other posters, there are rich engineers but they do not become rich by working for others which is what most engineers do. I think there are more BS holders poorer then engineers statitiscally but also more rich BS holders then engineers statistically.
[20-08-2006,22:47]
Anonymous
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Hey i had fun at university too and will not answer questions about pranks we pulled (cough Queens cough). That is what i mean about enjoy school while it lasts because most engineers you will work with and for are conformists and i mean that in a bad way. And so far you are the one not in my profession yet. I will not move over for a migrant engineer and i wont for a student with a big ego either.
[20-08-2006,22:52]
Anonymous
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1) Any professional engineer enlisted into the Canadian army is automatically assigned a rank of General.

2) The Army has little use for a BS.c in physics or math, they would not be offered a position as a general, so i dont knwo what point you were trying to make?

3) Why are you even talking about the Army?

4) If you knew anything about engineering you would know that holding an MAS.c really doesnt give you that much of an edge on a B.eng unless your intio biomedical engineering.


5) B.eng and BAS.c holders do very very little hands on work as soon and theyve done their 4 years of the EIT program and actually become an engineer.

6) Engineering degrees dont limit anyone.. they open doors. Engineers are trained to work in industry, math degree holders are not. They have a very small fraction of the oppertunities available to engineers.

[20-08-2006,23:03]
Anonymous
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If by "conformists" you mean what i think you do, i think your holding engineers at a little to high a level. Few prople in any profession are meant to be leaders.
[20-08-2006,23:11]
Anonymous
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1 - general?? typo or sarcasm? don´t tell me about our military, a prof eng who meets reqs can get 2ndLT commission but most induct as tech sargeants

2 - little use for physics math? wow you know jack about military but not my point because they would become tech sarges too with same limits on advancement as engineers

3 - point of army example is something called analogy which I knew before university, luckily because they didnt teach it at uoft skule. my point was greater opportunities for advancement

4 - if you knew about MSc and industries especially for chem engineers you wouldnt have said that

5 - depends on job i do not do much hands on anymore either

6 - completely wrong. engineering = applied science, math and physics = theoretical science. dummy, theoretical by its very name means more possibilities then applied. if you think only jobs that exist are college job fairs and classified ads then you should stick with engineering and keep doing what you are told and stay middle class with your boring job. welcome to my world rockstar

[20-08-2006,23:13]
Anonymous
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I cant belive im actually hearing this. Everything you say is bullshit! Physics grads often cant even get a job in psycics. By more oppertunity you must mean the "oppertunity" to not get a job in your field of work, and then end up working somewhere completely unrelated. If a physics grad is very very lucky he might end up being a lab tech, copying down data for some PHD. Its a boring ass job and it pays shitty.

Right now 52K/yr is rockstar lifestyle, and i will fucking enjoy my 52K/yr.

[20-08-2006,23:28]
Anonymous
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Again your knoledge of the job market seems limited to want ads. Research is done by more then phds. Companies love BS holders especialyl math and physics. For most degrees it just opens up doors. There is no such thing as being limited by a BS or BA degree unless you want to do a very specific thing. Degrees in computer science and engineering are more limiting, maybe not computer science if you take enough math and stay away from just programming classes like Yorks and Ryersons. Engineering limits you more then any other degree. It opens up doors only an engineering degree can open but employers think you are a square peg and fit in square holes. I wont argue if you have no experience and are close minded about sciences. I´m going to stop now because thou i wish I wasnt a engineer arguing with you makes it look worse then it is, it is a good career and safe degree but so is nursing and teaching and neither of those either should appeal to young men with ambitions.
[20-08-2006,23:44]
Anonymous
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Dont play the "im so experienced" card with me buddy, i bet your 1 year in industry(if that) has helped you rise above us all. Im not going to spend all night digging up info to prove to you that a BS.c is useless in research because everyone (except you) already knows that.


To be honest im again starting to doubt that your even an engineer. Good night telcos guy.

[21-08-2006,00:12]
Anonymous
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Rise above you all? Hey why dont you look at the title of thread and your opening post to see who thinks they are above it all. Don´t hate me for my experience and opinions or if i break some of you´re illusions. I have my opinions on being a engineer and i am one so im allowed to state them. Maybe you should learn not to put down everything and everyone else. You make yourself out to be either elite of engineer vs the world and anyone reading these will not trust the rest of your posts. QED
[21-08-2006,00:25]
Anonymous
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Whats wrong is the artsy mad because i put him down? I guess im under the same "illusion" as umm the rest of the world. Why dont you go and get your BS.c and see how much funding a company will give you for your cutting edge research.


I hope you have a good time stupying libral arts at university of buttfuckwhatever. Because i know your just some second year psyc student whos angry at the big mean engineer.

[21-08-2006,00:46]
Anonymous



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