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Subject: Application to University of Toronto
I am a CEGEP student. I want to apply to Engineering Science. My current average is 84.9%. I am a volunteer tutor and a paid tutor in my school. I am also a teacher in a community center.
The course I did so far:
Calculus 1
Calculus 2
Calculus 3 (this semester)

Physics 1
Physics 2
Physics 3 (this semester)
Option Physics (this semester)

Chemistry 1
Chemistry 2 (this semester)
Option Chemistry (this semester)

What are my chances. Any advice,

[03-01-2006,20:54]
Amit
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Whats your R score?


[03-01-2006,21:44]
Anonymous
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My CRC is 29.190.
[04-01-2006,00:55]
Amit
(in reply to: Application to University of Toronto)
Just go to McGill. Don´t waste your money going to U of T.


[04-01-2006,05:55]
Anonymous
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amen
[04-01-2006,16:38]
Anonymous
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It´s funny how UofT rejects are able to stay bitter so long.

What, you´re not bitter? You never even applied? Well then why are you so hung up over a university? Did it kill your father and rape your mother? Steal your girlfriend? Kick your dog?

Get lives, you pathetic lamers.

[04-01-2006,16:58]
Anonymous
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LOL, get a grip buddy, i think it´s "pathetic" and "lame" in itself to get all riled up over some stupid comments on an internet board. Seems like you´re the bitter one.

[04-01-2006,17:31]
Anonymous
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its a legitimate complaint. rejects post snarky comments whenever uoft is mentioned.

[04-01-2006,22:35]
Anonymous
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I dont think he should go to Mcgill for engineering. Engineering science at UofT is far superior to any Mcgill engineering program. I think you are pretty much assured of getting into UofT engineering science, seeing as you only need an R score of 26 to get into most engineering programs at Mcgill (except for mech).

Good luck at Uoft.


[04-01-2006,23:13]
Anonymous
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Go to McGill, it holds more prestige internationally, especially the States
[05-01-2006,00:35]
Anonymous
(in reply to: Application to University of Toronto)
UoFT has the best repututation in the states (certainly for engineering). Mcgill has its med school...


[05-01-2006,02:04]
Anonymous
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McGill doesn´t even have it´s med school anymore. UofT´s med school is far more selective and has a much higher endowement too, as well as being affiliated with more reknowned hospitals.
[05-01-2006,03:14]
Anonymous
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Mcgill is known in the NE states as an alternate option for university, foreign but not scary-foreign. This reputation somewhat balances out the fact Mcgill isn´t really the most productive research university in Canada. UofT´s reputation in the US is stronger for academics and research. Mcgill fanboys are deluding themselves if they think Mcgill is more internationally respected than UofT. And there is no argument that UofT beats Mcgill for engineering.
[05-01-2006,03:22]
Anonymous
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U of T sucks !
[06-01-2006,10:22]
Anonymous
(in reply to: Application to University of Toronto)
Mcgill swallows !

Concordia rulez !

[06-01-2006,22:02]
Anonymous
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concordia sucks

[09-01-2006,15:14]
Anonymous
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Typical U of T bullshit:
"Mcgill is known in the NE states as an alternate option for university, foreign but not scary-foreign."

well, if McGill isn´t scary-foreign then i guess U of T is a joke since admissions into McGill are more competitive, refer to your Macleans rankings 2005. And fyi, high school grade admissions into mcgill are around 89-90 for most faculties (again, check Macleans 2005) and the average entering grade is 89.3%, the highest of any Canadian university. That´s pretty scary to me.

"This reputation somewhat balances out the fact Mcgill isn?t really the most productive research university in Canada."

hilarious, McGill ranked first in Research Infosource´s "Research Universities of the Year 2005" rankings (U of T was in second place). Furthermore, the rankings noted that McGill placed first in research intensity/per faculty research funding ($381,100 VS U of T´s $263,100). U of T is tops in gross funding due to its sheer size, which can be larger than that of a state school in the US.

"UofT?s reputation in the US is stronger for academics and research. Mcgill fanboys are deluding themselves if they think Mcgill is more internationally respected than UofT."

right, and that´s why McGill has the most international students of all Canadian universities (check McGill website, facts 2004-2005). I guess that´s also why McGill beats U of T in its peer review (2004, 2005) and employer review (2005) scores in the THES international rankings; McGill is also ranked the top Canadian university in those rankings. And I also guess that´s the reason why the Gourman Report, which is a US publication and is found in many US high school guidance offices, ranks McGill number one in Canada, while U of T is number two.

"And there is no argument that UofT beats Mcgill for engineering."

maybe, most rankings that i´ve read put U of T at either first or second for engineering in Canada (Waterloo is sometimes first) while McGill is third place usually. But McGill as a school is still more prestigious.
U of T is a great school, don´t get me wrong, I wouldn´t mind going there one day, but there is only one Harvard of Canada and that is McGill. No other school in Canada can match the international reputation and prestige that McGill holds. Sorry.


[09-01-2006,15:50]
Anonymous
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Typical insecure outrage:

"well, if McGill isn?t scary-foreign then i guess U of T is a joke since admissions into McGill are more competitive, refer to your Macleans rankings 2005. And fyi, high school grade admissions into mcgill are around 89-90 for most faculties (again, check Macleans 2005) and the average entering grade is 89.3%, the highest of any Canadian university. That?s pretty scary to me."

Sorry, ´not scary-foreign´ was meant to convey why Americans chose going to McGill. It´s to go to a good, english language university in a foreign, fun, city - Montreal. Americans don´t see McGill as Harvard of the North. But find me a couple of Americans who say so (good luck) and I´ll let you keep your local nickname.

Next!

"hilarious, McGill ranked first in Research Infosource?s "Research Universities of the Year 2005" rankings (U of T was in second place). Furthermore, the rankings noted that McGill placed first in research intensity/per faculty research funding ($381,100 VS U of T?s $263,100). U of T is tops in gross funding due to its sheer size, which can be larger than that of a state school in the US."

Um, maybe you should look over your source a bit more carefully (http://www.researchinfosource.com/top50.shtml). McGill has the top *projected* score for 2005, based on "a balanced set of input and output measures for FY2004". Catch is, McGill´s score for 2004 was 2nd and for 2003 was 4th. Research Infosource based their projection on the huge increase in funding McGill saw between 2003 to 2004 - 58.6%! Hold your boasts about McGill´s productivity until it starts doing something with that money.

"right, and that?s why McGill has the most international students of all Canadian universities (check McGill website, facts 2004-2005)."

So what figures are you talking - percentage of student body, diversity of home countries, or hard numbers? Could it be related to the fact McGill RELIES on international students because of poor provincial funding? Or maybe because McGill will let in any US student with >70% and 1000 SAT? Whatever, that´s your point of pride, not mine.

"I guess that?s also why McGill beats U of T in its peer review (2004, 2005) and employer review (2005) scores in the THES international rankings; McGill is also ranked the top Canadian university in those rankings. And I also guess that?s the reason why the Gourman Report, which is a US publication and is found in many US high school guidance offices, ranks McGill number one in Canada, while U of T is number two."

I´m not going to bother countering this one. There are already too many threads on this forum comparing and bitching about school rankings. For schools as similar as UofT and McGill it´s not worth the effort. If you insist on using university surveys, please note the criteria they use (funding/faculty/professional programs) and use those points individually instead of the final score. Gourman, Macleans, Shanghai Jiao Tong - none of them are accurate and they all use questionable methodology.

Perhaps you´d care to tell me exactly what undergraduate program is more prestigious at McGill than UofT? Or are you just relying on your gut? Hometown loyalty does that to people.

[09-01-2006,18:04]
Anonymous
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"Americans don?t see McGill as Harvard of the North. But find me a couple of Americans who say so (good luck) and I?ll let you keep your local nickname."

i just googled this in two seconds:
http: //www.kiplinger.com/personalfinance/columns/drt/archive/2004/dt041202.html?
unfortunately, there´s more, google it yourself

"McGill has the top *projected* score for 2005, based on "a balanced set of input and output measures for FY2004......"

lol well you can call it a projected score since the money hasn´t been spent yet, but one can say that about all the other universities. And btw, McGill ranks first in "Publication Intensity", which is an output indicator.

"So what figures are you talking - percentage of student body, diversity of home countries, or hard numbers? Could it be related to the fact McGill RELIES on international students because of poor provincial funding? Or maybe because McGill will let in any US student with >70% and 1000 SAT? "
Percentage, and I wouldn´t be surprised if it was also hard numbers, I´ll get back to you on that when I get the figures. It´s funny that you say McGill suffers from provincial funding, since I recall reading that the Ontario schools are the ones in financial trouble these days. And I´m not a US student so i wouldn´t know where you got those admission requirements from. The ones i am aware of though, are in Macleans which states 89-90.

And about the rankings, i did mention the peer review and recruiter scores from THES. I won´t mention what undergraduate programs are more prestigious since i came to discuss the reputation and prestige of both schools as a whole. You can call me insecure but you weren´t secure enough yourself to leave the "Go to McGill, it holds more prestige internationally, especially the States" post alone. Indeed, hometown loyalty does that to people.

[09-01-2006,19:59]
Anonymous
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I got the US admission numbers and provincial funding pains from other McGill posters on here. There have been quite a few around here debunking the McGill-Harvard euphemism.

You are correct on the percentage of int´l students at McGill. From Wikipedia: "McGill´s student population includes 21,765 undergraduates and 9,160 graduate students (2004/05). McGill has a higher percentage of international students (mostly from the United States) than any other Canadian university. This is partially due to an admissions policy that reserves a quota of spaces for international students." I guess being popular with one other country qualifies as international prestige. Technically.

Bullshit that McGill ranks first in publication intensity. UofT publishes the second highest volume of research in North America annually. It´s library holdings are also the fourth largest on the continent, and yes they´re all available to undergrads.

Stand behind your Research Infosource but make sure you read the fine print on their methodologies. McGill received a boost in funds last year which swelled the average per faculty member. One year, money that hasn´t been spent, a per average inflated by an underwhelming faculty - don´t try and link that source to prestige.

Toronto is not my hometown but UofT is my university. McGill is good too. Nothing wrong with second place.

[09-01-2006,20:45]
Anonymous
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don´t judge a school based on the comments of some posters, which are often unreliable or biased. Do the necessary research to get the facts. And also realize that the posters here do not represent all students, academics or employers. What you get is a view or opinion held by a limited demographic.

McGill´s international students come from 140 different countries (McGill facts 04-05). I don´t know the percentage nor the number of international students coming from each country. If you do, please state them before saying that McGill is only popular with one country (Wikipedia isn´t a good source since information can be fabricated or edited by anyone).

The publication intensity ranking was from Infosource itself, it isn´t "bullshit"; maybe you should´ve read it over a bit more carefully yourself. I believe intensity refers to per faculty numbers. Comparing total volume between McGill and U of T would be unfair, since U of T boasts double the amount of students and staff. And the infosource rankings were mentioned as a reaction to your comment that mcgill wasn´t the most productive university in canada; it had nothing to do with prestige.

On the other hand, i mentioned the large number of int. students, the peer and recruiter review scores from THES, and the Gourman Report to justify my opinions on prestige (indeed, there´s nothing wrong with being n.2).

that being said, i feel this debate will go on forever. A McGill VS U of T discussion is very much like the Harvard VS Princeton debate; it´ll go nowhere.

[09-01-2006,22:32]
Anonymous



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