Misrepresentation

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Subject: Misrepresentation
  Hello Friends,

I am going to receive a lot of flak for this, but I´m posting the query anyway. I got married during my application processing stage (after being sent the interview waiver) and did not inform the visa office. At the time of landing, I told the visa officer that I was single. I had a medical problem and this could have been grounds for rejection, hence I did not wish to add my spouse´s name into the application. If I had been rejected, my spouse would have found out about my medical condition and this could have caused a severe strain in my marriage.

I was aware all through the process that I would not be able to sponsor my spouse in future. However, going through this forum, I have just seen that not only can I no sponsor my spouse, but if CIC finds out about it, I could be removed from Canada.

I have checked the CIC website, what I have done is termed as ´misrepresentation´. Apparently, there are three kinds of removal orders, the most severe one is deportation which means I can never come back to Canada. There is also an exclusion order which says that if one is guilty of misrepresentation, then one is not allowed into Canada for 2 years.

Can anyone on this forum pls advise me what my status is now? I have not yet applied for my spouse´s visa, but if I did and was found out, would I lose my PR perpetually, or would I be able to keep it and come back after two years.

Many Thanks


[09-11-2005,08:57]
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Anon
(in reply to: Misrepresentation)
I think yours is a sensitive case and you should consult an immigration lawyer to best help you.

Unfortnately most of us on this forum are the first timers, learning from each other as we go on our own case(s).

However one advise I can give, which is to come clean in front of one innocent party in the whole episode which is your spouse.

[09-11-2005,09:23]
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starwars
(in reply to: Misrepresentation)
I agree with Starwars. I am presuming that you are now forced to live apart from your spouse. Please make sure you and her are on the same page and pray for the best.

After all, if this immigration thing is now giving you grief...is it all worth it?

Do consult an immigration lawyer.

[09-11-2005,12:32]
[**.128.30.10]
ME
(in reply to: Misrepresentation)
I am sure you thought you were protecting yourself and your future but WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!

Being deceptive to CIC has clear consequences. You have entered Canada with false documentation. You now bring in to question every piece of information you supplied in your application. I have no idea how long you waited for your PR but it will be a shame to lose it all over such a foolish decision.

I have no idea what the consequences will be. The minute you attempt to sponsor your wife, all the bells are going to go off.

I find it very hard to feel sorry for you. The person I feel sorry for is your wife! you have witheld medical information, you have promised her a life in Canada that you may not be able to deliver. What else did you not tell her! Please do not say you did this because you love her.

You need to come clean with your wife. CIC is the least of your concerns.

[09-11-2005,15:05]
[***.20.170.23]
Sharon
(in reply to: Misrepresentation)
Or, marry her again and claim that that´s your first wedding, then sponsor her? ...
[09-11-2005,17:43]
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njk
(in reply to: Misrepresentation)
Whatever you did for whatever reason is your personal problem thats why i am not going to comment on that but if you want to bring your wife to Canada, there is an easy option for you. Go back to your country and get married again or get a marriage contract in later dates and then sponsor your wife.....or you may consult with an immigration lawyer.....let me tell you Immigration lawyers are of no help in something which is based on lies and misrepresentation, therefore you have to do what you can by yourself only. Good Luck
[09-11-2005,20:10]
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Steve
(in reply to: Misrepresentation)
Truthfully, just forget you are married and simply get a new marriage certificate dated after you landed in Canada. If your wife is in a third world country, I can assure that you will have no problem getting a new certificate, all you need is to flash a little money under the table. You wouldn´t believe what kinds of official papers I got from the police and justice department with the help of a few dollars when I was overseas.

Believe me, sometimes corruption in the government can work to your advantage.

Also get all your photos re-developed because sometimes the date is coded on the back.

Honestly, I don´t think you are to screwed. You just need to work the system.

[09-11-2005,21:39]
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Anonymous
(in reply to: Misrepresentation)
167.254...
while I really feel bad for our original poster, I must take offence at your solution. I hope you are not one of the PR appilcants that bitterly complain about background checks and how long everything takes. You are encouraging this poster to commit fraud!!!

what else should we be deceptive about? our education? our employment? our health records? when does it stop?


[09-11-2005,22:36]
[***.181.198.246]
Sharon
(in reply to: Misrepresentation)
No Sharon, I am not one of the people here that bitch and complain about CIC. In fact I patiently waited out the 16 months it took my wifes application through Singapore to complete.

I figured my post would stir some shit, but think about, this person hasn´t really committed a serious offence by not informing about the marriage. The real offence is that he seems to have a medical condition that he is knownly hiding from CIC for fear of grounds for rejection and also the spouse.

What differnce would it have made if he married the day after landing? He still would be sponsoring a person to Canada, whether liget or not.

To me a medical condition is way more serious than a date that a wedding took place. I only suggested an easy solution to his marriage issue. Its the same thing I remember you, Sharon, telling a poster over a year ago that it is ok to work(babysitting) under the table in Canada until their in-canada process was complete.(You said something like, "come on, do these people expect us to sit for years and do nothing").

Yes, the poster here is wrong about not informing CIC, but my opinion is that this is peanuts compared to what could be happening. Besides, CIC appears to be running like a nursery school, with all their unresponsive lack of professional conduct.

Sharon you missed the real issue on this one and thats the one where I agree with you. It stops at our education, our employment, our HEALTH RECORDS.

[10-11-2005,03:31]
[***.186.167.254]
Anonymous
(in reply to: Misrepresentation)
I can´t agree. sorry. Legal status is important too. I will say why. There is far less scrutiny on a spouse for immigration. Canada gives people the benefit of good choices. Last minute marriages are easily used as a ´low scrutiny´ way in to the country. The PR gains certain rights upon landing that make it very difficult for CIC to reject a spouse...therefore, disclosure prior to landing is critical to the security and health of our country.


[10-11-2005,13:33]
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Sharon
(in reply to: Misrepresentation)
I agree with you about the security and health of our country being critical(I´m a natural born Canadian aswell). I guess what I´m trying to say is whether or not this person informs CIC before or after the fact isn´t as much of a threat to Canada as hiding a medical condition.

The sponsored spouse will still have to go through their own screening and still have an independant decision made on themselves.

Also with the inefficencies of CIC and poor management and organization of some of the overseas offices, I myself would also be forced to think of the best situation to be with my wife. But I think I wouldn´t try hiding things from my wife. This will for sure cause problems in the future for everyone.

Its an interesting discussion on the importance of details and what really is important to Canadas safety. I don´t believe this is a case of someone trying to get easy access because the poster was aware that this will cause problems in the future. I just can´t see why their marriage date is a life or death situation for Canada.

One last note, "The PR gains certain rights upon landing that make it very difficult for CIC to reject a spouse..." if this was true then you yourself wouldn´t be on these forums everyday discussing your own problems with your husbands application. Also if this was true, if you are a Canadian citizen -which I think you are- then you definatly wouldn´t be here because you have even more rights.

Until CIC gets their own shit together, we all have to do whats best for our own interests, as we can´t trust a system that doesn´t even have the answer to their own questions.

[10-11-2005,14:08]
[***.186.167.254]
Anonymous