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Sponsor Your Parents is going to file class action lawsuit based on the following facts:
1.CPC Mississauga completely stopped processing of parental applications submitted after June 24, 2003, but it continues to accept new applications and collect the fees. In so doing, CIC breached the mutual contract when the processing of applications was stopped. The payment of processing fees in advance creates an obligation on the CIC to finalize the case as soon as all statutory requirements have been met.
2.CIC continues to post historic rather than prospective processing times. In so doing, CIC is misleading significant numbers of sponsorship applicants. CIC failed to disclose important information pertaining to the process of parental sponsoring.
3.CIC decided to make parents and grandparents a zero priority, compared to spouses and dependant children. Such discrimination appears to be contrary to the law. Both parents/grandparents and spouses/dependant children are members of the Family Class. There is no provision in the law to make any distinction in terms of priorities between the two above-mentioned groups.
4.CIC concealed their intention to deliberately delay the processing and artificially creating an inhumane backlog causing psychological distress and mental anguish to both applicants and their families.
Please write to info@sponsoryourparents.ca if you are interested to participate. Please mention your city of residence.
www.sponsoryourparents.ca
[29-06-2005,22:33]
[**.156.79.16]
prg |
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(in reply to: Class action lawsuit)
Leave those old folks back home where they know other people like themselves and thrive on community relationships. Make sure you send them some cash every now and then but do not exacerbate their life by putting them in new societies and cultures at their age (they probably got one foot into the coffin already). Why you stupid young people constantly work toward torturing them? If they need your presence in your home country, just move back there for a few years or make frequent trips home.... but STOP BRINGING THEM TO CANADA.
[30-06-2005,12:51]
[***.202.107.231]
anon |
(in reply to: Class action lawsuit)
Why everyone thinks he knows better what´s good for MY parents??? My parents don´t need money from me or the Canadian government. ALL THEY WANT is to spend their last years with their only son. Why is it so difficult to understand??? You want to leave YOUR parents alone in their country - by all means, do it. But don´t tell me what to do.
By the way, why everyone automatically assumes that they are old? Average immigrant is 25-35 years old. I know many immigrants with 50 years old parents.
The government has violated any possible section in the Immigration law. It breached its own promise to the immigrants - to let them to reunite with their parents. They are taking our money without processing one single case for more than a year! It will pay for it. Thousands of lawsuits are on their way. It´s going to be bigger than the sponsorship scandal.
[30-06-2005,19:11]
[**.10.219.37]
prg |
(in reply to: Class action lawsuit)
until we can find a hospital bed and a doctor for them I think they are better off in their home country. It is a statistical fact that the bulk of Canadian health care costs come in the latter half of life. Your taxes are paying for your own future, not that of your parents so the arguement of being a taxpayer does not work.
according to CIC website- ´Family members include your spouse or common-law partner and dependent children.´ they make this fact very clear.
I do not know why you get so angry when people respond negatively to your post. Your post is a clear provocation to comment when you use a vocabulary such as ´discrimination, concealed intention, deliberately delay, psychological distress, mental anguish, inhumane, violate´. Please accept the fact that not everyone sees this situation in the same way. If you do not want to hear peoples comments - positive or negative... do not post!
If being with your parents is such an important thing for you, I would think you would have packed up and moved back to your home country by now. Why can´t they come for a visit (you indicate they are young and have adequate finances)? Why can´t you go home for a holiday?
I really have a problem with your hard-done-by, hostile, anti Canada postings.
I fail to see your hardship.
[30-06-2005,21:05]
[***.20.170.23]
sharon |
(in reply to: Class action lawsuit)
My posings are not anti Canada. In your eyes, few CIC officials represent Canada? Canada is better than that.
According to CIC site, "You can sponsor relatives or family members from abroad if they are: spouses, parents and grandparents..."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/index.html
As long as parents are part of family class, they have exactly the same rights as any other member of this class.
When CIC tried to change the criteria for independent workers retroactively in 2002, I can guess that people like you also defended them. However, the court found this unacceptable. Don´t they never learn? Thanks God we still have courts in this country. This class action is going to be much bigger.
Allan Thompson wrote in TORONTO STAR:
"One of the memos, written by a senior immigration official in May 2002, suggests the officials fully expected to face legal action because of their decision to use administrative measures - rather than the law or regulations - to stem the flow of parents and grandparents. Immigration officers in the field, obviously uncomfortable with their instructions to halt or slow down processing these sponsorship applications, questioned the wisdom of their instructions."
[30-06-2005,23:39]
[**.156.79.16]
prg |
(in reply to: Class action lawsuit)
You call my post provocation, but show me one single fact that is not correct. You don´t want to see my parents in Canada? That´s irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant is the law. The current CIC policy violates at least five sections of Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.
In May 2002 CIC hatched a secret plan to slash the annual intake of sponsored parents and grandparents from a 10-year average of 22,000 to an all-time low of 6,000. In April 2005, they announced "tripling" from 6,000 to 18,000. This is a policy adopted from Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister: to tell people "half truths", to repeat it enough times and people will buy it at the end.
Try to call CIC today and ask how long will it take if you apply to sponsor your parents today. Their answer is: 2-3 years. Simple math of the backlog tells you that it will take about 6 years to clear the current backlog without touching a single new case received during this period. So they continue to lie and mislead people.
You telling me to go back to my country. I know families that actually considering this. Those families paid in their first 3-4 years in Canada more than $100,000 taxes! Those are exactly the kind of people that Canada wanted to attract in the first place. And you are sending them home because of stupidity of CIC officials.
[01-07-2005,00:14]
[**.156.79.16]
prg |
(in reply to: Class action lawsuit)
immigration officers do not set policy- they do a job they were hired to do according to government policy. Policy is set by governments elected by the people of Canada.
notice they say relatives OR family members. the reunification program refers to FAMILY members.
If you are right, you are right. But the immigration department is entirely within its mandate to open and close the gate as they see fit. That is their job. Sponsorship/qualification criteria has not changed (as in previous lawsuit) and therefore is not subject to legal challenge in the same way. what is in question is how many, how quickly. when CIC has no idea what the application numbers will be, how can they make promises about completion dates?
You have sucked me into this conversation again. there is no point to it because your opinion is fixed. you are only looking for cheerleaders.
[01-07-2005,00:17]
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sharon |
(in reply to: Class action lawsuit)
if in 3-4 years they paid $100,000 in taxes they can thank Canada for very good jobs!
you are using those words again...´hatched, lie, mislead, Nazi propaganda...
[01-07-2005,00:44]
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sharon |
(in reply to: Class action lawsuit)
> But the immigration department is entirely within its mandate to open and close the gate
Yes, as long as it is according to the law. They can do it only by changing the law or regulations, not by administrative measures. And they have no right to lie to people.
> is not subject to legal challenge
At least 4 law firms are ready to take this issue to court. The fee they are asking will hardly cover their expenses, they hope to get the real fees from the government. Would they agree to do it if they didn´t think there is a strong case?
> notice they say relatives OR family members. the reunification program refers to FAMILY members.
Maybe you shouldn´t talk about things that you don´t know.
Immigration and Refugee Protection Act section 3 (1).(d): "to see that families are reunited in Canada";
section 12.(1) "A foreign national may be selected as a member of the family class on the basis of their relationship as the spouse, common-law partner, child, parent or other prescribed family member of a Canadian citizen or permanent resident."
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/I-2.5/64352.html
I´m not looking for cheerleaders, I´m providing information for people who are in the same situation as me and are interested in justice. We tried the political pressure for 6 months, Volpe didn´t agree even to meet us despite the fact that we represent at least 5,000 families.
[01-07-2005,00:51]
[**.156.79.16]
prg |
(in reply to: Class action lawsuit)
> if in 3-4 years they paid $100,000 in taxes they can thank Canada for very good jobs!
Thank Canada? Why, Canada paying them? Maybe Canada should than them for getting such experienced and skilled workers without investing one cent in their education?
Or maybe Canada shouls thank their parents for making the greatest investment in this country by raising their children, giving them education, skills and personal qualities that those immigrated children are now putting into Canada´s economy, culture and society?
It depends how you look at it. By listening to you, one can get an impression that Canada is doing me a huge favor by letting me in and paying me what I deserve according to my skills and experience.
[01-07-2005,00:56]
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prg |
(in reply to: Class action lawsuit)
> you are using those words again
It´s not the words that I use, it´s the facts. You still didn´t respond to one single fact that I gave. Everything is supported by documents. Most of the words that I´m using are taken from articles by leading Canadian journalists and lawyers.
If you think I´m wrong, don´t use those old and irrelevant arguments about hospital beds. We are talking about less than 0.1% of Canadian popilation (22,000 parents per year). Respond to the facts that I presented.
Spend an hour, visit our website www.sponsoryourparents.ca. You might be shocked by the facts.
[01-07-2005,01:13]
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prg |
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