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Hi All:
How much time one have after getting immigration approval to migrate to canada? Is it like 90 days or something?. What the maximum time one has to migrate?.
Thanks in advance for your help...
MA
[18-05-2005,02:15]
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MA |
In a foreign land (in reply to: Time After Immigration Approval-Landing)
In a foreign land
Doctors from other countries are turning to odd jobs as they struggle to meet the varying standards and training required to practise in Canada
By Celia Milne
There are as many stories as there are international medical graduates (IMGs). Dr. Luis Monterrosa, a pediatrician who fled Colombia with his family, is sweating night and day to become a doctor in Canada. He works nights at a factory in Guelph, Ont., days as a medical research volunteer in Hamilton, and evenings at an intensive English course. Dr. Slobodan Lemez, a family physician who left Bosnia for Toronto with nothing but two suitcases, has passed all the Canadian medical exams but may never get his licence. With four mouths to feed, he can´t take a year off from paid work to do residency training. Dr. Chafic Farhat, a well-respected thoracic surgeon in Sao Paulo, Brazil, for 30 years, now runs a pizza restaurant in Fredericton, N.B.
"Currently, we are wasting these untapped resources," says John Connors, an international health-care consultant in Stoney Creek, Ont. "At the same time we are showing them very little respect, care and concern."
Connors works with IMGs from South America. Time and time again he has seen IMGs get tripped up by the bureaucratic system. "No one, least of all these aspiring professionals, is seeking to lower the standard. Rather, they are seeking some understanding and assistance in achieving the same Canadian high standard that is recognized around the globe."
Stories of physicians´ talents going to waste are poignant in a country desperate for doctors. "We´re way short of physicians," says Dr. Rod Crutcher, co-chair of the Canadian Taskforce on International Medical Graduate Licensure. "Even if we weren´t, there´s the social justice argument that it doesn´t make sense to have so many people working below their skill levels."
In theory, the rules for IMGs to get licensed in Canada are loosening somewhat. But the number of physicians who "make it" is still quite tiny. To succeed, IMGs need not only good clinical skills, an ability to pass exams and workable French or English, they also need a steady flow of money, endless patience for bureaucracy, ruthless determination and, in many cases, lots and lots of time. On the other side of the desk, those who make decisions about IMG licensure have to balance the conflicting goals of quickly injecting new physicians into the system while maintaining excellence and fairness.
Human rights challenges by IMGs from non-Commonwealth countries have served to level the playing field. No matter what country physicians come from?whether it´s the Ukraine or the United Kingdom?they have to jump through the same hoops. This has had the ironic effect of making it almost impossible for Canadians who have studied overseas in countries like Ireland and Australia to come home to be doctors. Only U.S. medical training is considered equivalent.
Rules are different in each province. "The manner in which IMGs get trained and licensed varies tremendously across the country," says Dr. Francine Lemire, director of the Clinical Skills Assessment and Training Program (CSAT) run by Memorial University in Newfoundland.
Charged with making sense of it all is the Canadian Taskforce on International Medical Graduate Licensure, of which Dr. Lemire is a member. By the end of the year, the task force is expected to deliver recommendations on how to integrate IMGs into the physician supply, adopt a fair and transparent process for medical licensure and develop common guidelines for assessment.
Dr. Rod Andrew, director of the IMG program for B.C. and a member of the task force, says uniformity across the country is desirable. "It would be ideal to have an evaluation process in place whereby any physician from any part of the world could be looked at. We could say, ´This person is well-trained, with these deficits; this person clearly needs to go back to residency; this person is not up to snuff.´ But it isn´t moving ahead quickly."
Right now, B.C., for instance, only offers residencies for IMGs in family medicine, not specialties, and there are only six spots in the whole province. "The climate is changing but there haven´t been changes," he says.
The ebb and flow of Canadian IMGs over the years depends on policy decisions. Canada has long relied on IMGs to meet its needs. In 1969, IMGs made up 24.3% of Canadian physicians. In the late 1970s, this number grew to 30%. Then, in the 1980s, it looked as if there was a physician oversupply, so the percentage of IMGs began to decline. In 2000, it was back down to 23%. Now, the need for IMGs is strong again, and the pendulum will swing upward.
The basic path for an IMG to become licensed in Canada is to write the Medical Council of Canada Evaluating Examination (MCCEE), follow a program in either family medicine or in a specialty, and then pass the Medical Council of Canada Qualifying Exam Part I and Part II. (MCCQEI and MCCQEII). Each exam costs approximately $1,000 and residency work is largely unpaid.
The Canadian Resident and Matching Service (CaRMS), established in 1994, operates in most provinces. It matches residents with programs and the match occurs in two iterations. International medical graduates are able to apply to the second round of matching.
The pass rates for both the MCCQE Parts I and II are lower for IMGs than for Canadian graduates. Typically, on the first attempt, only 70% of IMGs pass the MCCQEI, while fully 96% of candidates from Canadian medical school pass. For the MCCQEII, 65% of IMGs pass the first attempt, versus 96% of Canadian candidates.
It used to be the case that IMGs were defined as either category I or category II, depending on where they went to medical school. Category I meant they studied in the United States, Great Britain, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or South Africa. Physicians from any other country had to take additional training. In a pivotal legal case, called Bitonti, physicians from Italy, Romania, the Philippines and Russia who had been unable to secure employment as physicians in B.C., argued they were discriminated against by the College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia. Category I and II distinctions were abandoned in 1993 and now all applicants for full registration must complete two years of postgraduate training in Canada. It is the law in Canada that IMGs have their skills assessed based on merit rather than assumption. "There shouldn´t be two classes of Canadians," says Dr. Crutcher.
[18-05-2005,02:37]
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canuck |
I am a immigrant.Last summer, I was off school for summer holiday,I found a job in a chicken product factory in GTA. I was assigned to a stream line. The duty was to pack all the plastic bags of chi (in reply to: Time After Immigration Approval-Landing)
I am a immigrant.Last summer, I was off school for summer holiday,I found a job in a chicken product factory in GTA. I was assigned to a stream line. The duty was to pack all the plastic bags of chicken wings into big or small boxes. The products were delivered by the stream line. Then the workers put the bags into the boxes.The supervisor was responsible to modify the speed of the stream line. Whenever he saw there were no bags piled on the stream line he would quicken the moving line. I had to keep on unfolding boxes, lifting bags , packing boxes and throwing boxes onto another line. I had to finish this series of tasks in 10 seconds. The problem was I had to keep on doing this continuously for 8 hours (except for two 15 minute breaks). The supervisor never slowed down the speed. As a result, the speed was faster and faster.Every time after I came back from the break and put on a new pair of cotton gloves( the chicken wings were frozen), they would get wet in 5 minutes because I was sweating disregarding the room temperature was zero. Another girl and I were new comers so we had to do the heaviest work. The heaviest work was on the streamline. Older workers could tape the boxes or stick label on the boxes. However , we two were not allowed to do that. Ok, it doesn´t matter, I was paid so I should respect my job. I worked very very hard without any goldbrick.
There was an old white woman in this workshop. She was also a worker but she almost did nothing. The longest time she worked on the stream line was 10 minutes. Then she would wander some where else. Strange enough, the supervisor even smiled at her instead of supervising her. Every afternoon when I was really exhausted and still struggling on the line, she would walk towards me and shouted:"faster, faster." Everybody had chances to switch to other easier works except the new coming girl and me.How could I be faster? My hands were already swollen. This is Canada. On the 7th day, what the old woman did was out of my tolerence. I asked her"Now everybody is busy with this line. Why are you leaving ? Why did you say I am slow. I am sure I am faster than you." She was shocked not thinking I dare to fight back. She left the workshop for a few minutes. Then, at the end of the shift that day, I was informed"You don´t need to come tomorrow.´´ I still remember I felt so released instead of sadness.
My seven days in factory is my first Canadian lesson.I hate unfairness but I know I am strong enough to give me and my family a good life. I will not give up.
[18-05-2005,02:39]
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I am a immigrant.Last summer, I was off school for |
(in reply to: Time After Immigration Approval-Landing)
You have up to ONE year from your medicals......
They will tell you the time that you have to be in Canada.
Good luck
It will be a great move in your life.
Canada is wonderful
[18-05-2005,04:08]
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Anonymous |
(in reply to: Time After Immigration Approval-Landing)
"You have up to ONE year from your medicals......
They will tell you the time that you have to be in Canada.
Good luck"
Actually, you have up to one year from the date of your medicals to land in Canada. Once you have landed, you must be physically present in Canada two out of every five years. So, in theory, you wait almost until almost one year after your medicals to land, land but only stay a day or two, then leave Canada for just shy of three years. So (though I don´t see why anyone would want to) you have almost four years from the date of your medical exam to "migrate" to Canada.
[18-05-2005,09:24]
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grendel |
5 years Lapsed Canada Immigration Application (in reply to: Time After Immigration Approval-Landing)
Hi all, I am a Filipino and I applied for Canada Immigration(with my family) in our country last May 2005. The advise from Canada Embassy was 42 to 46 months of approval. It is already 63 months and we have not heard any advise from them. Please advise what should I do. Thanks.
[12-08-2010,19:33]
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Ruben Miano |
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