The grass IS greener...

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Subject: The grass IS greener...
  The game only revolves around the type of expectations that one travels with to a new land. It is just the frame of mind that drags one into disappointment or contentment.
Why all of us take one thing for granted that in Canada, money grows on trees OR we are ready to put great efforts required for success in our own country but we relocate to another country with a different frame of mind?
We are always afraid of change. Relocation is a BIG change. Embrace it. We also need to work to improve our skills that are required under a completely different set of circumstances.
I´m one of you. Dying to go to Canada, right now & right here BUT with no expectations!
Its going to be a very different land. Different people. Different weather. Different geography. I choose it that way. And I tell myself "Yes, I can even do good in an entirely different set of circumstances".

I plan to go to some school, to enhance my education. I´ll plan to send my wife to some school, so that she´s also accepted well after her studies.
Its all about the expectations that you travel with, to Canada. The grass can be turned greener :) Good luck

[28-04-2005,15:36]
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Khan
(in reply to: The grass IS greener...)
Khan,

I agree with you to some extent, but there is only so much that one can go back to saying "Ok, I´ll re-build my life".
Do you think doctors working as cab drivers justify your point of view ? All I am saying is that if the fact that the person being a doctor was taken into consideration while alloting points, they should treat him as a doctor after he/she immigrates. This is just an example. Its easy to say, but when one is in the 30´s and with a family (lets say with 1-2 kids), re-setting life is not a very lucrative option. Once again.... we all are aware that no one is forcing anyone to immigrate, but the fact that the govt. looks at you differently before and after immigration.... that sucks bigtime !!


Sharon,
You mentioned about how Australia does skill certifications at the applicants expense and how its tougher to immigrate to Oz. Point taken, but personally, I am more interested in my family´s well being after I immigrate and not before.
In other words one should never plan to immigrate to a certain country just because the immigration process is a few hundreds of dollars less or cheaper than the other country.

P.S: Let say an architect, a IT fellow and a Mechanical Engineer immigrate to Canada. They all hold professional degrees from a non-North American institution. Assuming that there are plenty of jobs in each skill available, can each of those professionals expect to get recruited based on their existing qualifications ?

If Yes, then I feel its great and I have absolutely no issues, but we might need some concrete proof of such instances (maybe some previous immigrants can shed light on this).

If no, then what do they have to do (besides working on $8 per hr jobs) so that they can get back on track in a reasonable timeframe ? Lets rule out going back to school for the moment, but if that is the only option then "LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD" !!

PEACE !!

[28-04-2005,19:50]
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Anonymous
(in reply to: The grass IS greener...)
if I am an engineer and I studied in Canada, do you think a company in your home country would hire me day one without making sure my training matched your countries rules and standards??? NO. When your profession is governed by national standards you should be smart enough to know that you must be licensed in the country where you choose to work.


[28-04-2005,23:53]
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sharon
(in reply to: The grass IS greener...)
Sharon,
I think you should give it a shot by trying to get a job in another country that is open to "skilled" immigration. "Skilled" is the key here. There are only a few countries that are eligible. I´ll be more than happy to see your findings as to the timeline that you would have faced before you could pick up where you left.

Moreover most of the "skilled" immigrants will fall in the category of "regulated" professions in Canada. Regulated means that if you are an engineer, you cannot practice as an "engineer" till you have a licence from a (here´s the fun part) provincial OR territorial OR federal authority. This involves a period of supervision under licence holders. How would you even apply for such a job ? I would like to see a list of countries that does this. What a joke !!

Maybe that´s why ppl tend to run towards the non-regulated jobs, I mean, that has to be a reason other than saying "we want to make sure we can maintain the integrity and quality" yada yada yada !!

And Sharon, maybe you overlooked the cost that the applicant has to bear for the licencing fees, certification and registration. I hope you did not imply that Canadian govt is paying that out of its pocket. LOL.

Other countries like Australia also does the skills assessment, difference being, it happens before the immigration.

Anyways, I think we have exchanged enough views to understand where we stand. Before I sign off let me point others interested to some links....

http://www.cicic.ca/factsheets/factsheet2en.stm

The one below mentions how the govt has recognized that improvements have to be made to acheive what I have been telling all the while....

http://www.news.gc.ca/cfmx/CCP/view/en/index.cfm?articleid=141029&




[29-04-2005,00:51]
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Anonymous
(in reply to: The grass IS greener...)
I have already concluded that I would be in serious trouble in any country other than my own. I would not dream of being able to walk into a comparable job or comparable salary in any other country besides Canada- especially if I was a regulated profession.

my fiance and I have had this conversation 100 times... would I be willing to move to his home country. my answer... how would I communicate, what would I do for work. without strong language skills I would have a serious disadvantage. without pure transferable skills I would be faced with finding a job that may not be within my skill set. In our case... my fiance´s skills were more transferable than mine, therefore he is coming to Canada.

yes, Canada can do a better job of acknowledging credentials but make no mistake... Canada is not alone with this problem.


[29-04-2005,01:26]
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sharon
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