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| Subject: Driving in to Canada /2 |
then I would suggest you follow the suggestion you prefer from the other forum and make sure you have a very serious back-up plan.
[15-05-2011,23:09]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Driving in to Canada /2)
After you attemp your border crossing in July come back and let us know did it go for all of you.
BTW a visitor record is not something that you request, it is given at the Port of Entry by the CBSA officer. Normally to US citizens and in most cases when enter the country without a passport and/or some other reason that I don´t really want to explain right now.
Keep one little thing in mind though, in order to get a visitor´s record, the foreign alien has to be admitted into the country first.
What makes you think that your wife is going to be allowed to enter the country? There is a very high risk that CBSA will send her right back and then you are going to put in risk the whole application process. Every single part of your plan is asking for a refusal.
You should move first and once all the paper work has gone through, then move the family.
Poor planing.
[15-05-2011,23:48]
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DocD |
(in reply to: Driving in to Canada /2)
Since you can not go back in time and plan better, I will give you my advice for what to do in the mean time.
You have a few options:
A: Do as DocD says and wait it out is what you should do since you are applying for an OUTLAND (not in Canada) spousal application, this usually requires you(wifey) to be.....OUTLAND.
B:Apply IMMEDIATELY...then arrive at the border and completely explain your situation. The officer MAY (the officer is under no obligation to do this for you, and in most cases should not do it/ is not really allowed to) issue your wife a Temporary Resident Permit at a cost of $200 to overcome your wife´s inadmissability (no landing documents).
C: Apply immediately (actually for anything you need to get your application moving) and arrive at the border, fully explain yourself. Your wife MAY be given a visitor record, if she can PROVE that she has made an application for permanent residence (if not then this option is shot), is married to you (marriage certificate), is the mother of your children (long birth certificate), and has options for supporting herself (your job, her savings, etc...) for the length of time she will be unemployed in Canada while waiting for a yes or no decision from CIC. This option falls under the "dual intent" for your wife. Her initial intent is to be a visitor (she must prove that she will leave if she is not allowed to stay, and cannot bring all of her goods), and her second intent is to become a PR. Being married to a Cad Cit. is the only reason they MAY consider this option for you and your wife.
As for you and your children, they cannot disallow you from entry into Canada as you have a right of entry, however all of your goods etc... do not and may get held up a while if they think you are trying to sneek your wife in at a later date.
Honesty and patience will always work in your favour when crossing the border. As well remember the onus is on YOU the traveller to do all of your research prior to trying to cross. This is abbig move and alot of things need to be done, do not expect alot of "breaks" at the border if you are not prepared.
Good luck.
JP
[16-05-2011,13:40]
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jp |
(in reply to: Driving in to Canada /2)
Just one more thing.
For option C you must prove that your wife is not moving all of her life up to Canada, she must still have ties that show if CIC says no then she will actually leave.
She is NOT ALLLOWED to import her goods into Canada, anything over what a VISITOR would need will be deinied entry, and may shoot down any chance of option C.
[16-05-2011,13:43]
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jp |
(in reply to: Driving in to Canada /2)
Sorry but the advise above isn´t right.
Point "B". Inadmissibility? For what? She isn´t inadmissible yet, there is no inadmissibility to overcome at this point.
It doesn´t make any sense.
Point "C" dual intent for a foreign national attemting to enter Canada????? as a visitor with the kitchen sink in the back???
Really? Try again. It doesn´t work that way.
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UnQuote : "Just one more thing.
For option C you must prove that your wife is not moving all of her life up to Canada, she must still have ties that show if CIC says no then she will actually leave".
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First isn´t a CIC call at the POE, it is CBSA.
Do you really think that the CBSA officer is an idiot? Mom and dad moving to Canada with the car full of goods with their children, he has a brand new job waiting for him in Canada, they just applied or going to apply (upon arrival) for her PR status and she is going to tell the officer that she is only a "visitor" and with no home back in the US since they just sold it, she has no job and who is going to look after the kids?
Do you really think that the officer will not suspect that she isn´t a a visitor? That her intentions are not to go back to the US whether her PR is approved or not? How do you account for that?
The in-land applications pile is up to the roof in Vegreville.
Dual intent?, TRV at the POE in her situation?, explain to the officer her situation???? explain WHAT? a foreign national who wants to enter Canada to stay?
In the event that she is allowed entry (very unlikely), she does realize that she has to leave Canada and re-enter right? If her PR is approved.
In-land processing....bad option.
[16-05-2011,14:11]
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DocD |
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