LOST L.I. LIVE OVERSEAS

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Subject: LOST L.I. LIVE OVERSEAS
 
DEAR SIR: A PERSON LIVED IN CANADA FROM 1965 TO 1972 AND NOW LIVES IN ITALY. IS NOW APPLYING FOR THE OLD AGE SECURITY AND MUST PROVIDE PROOF OF LANDING IMMIGRANT WHICH HAS LOST.
CAN HE USE THE REGURLAR FORM IMM 5009?
MAIL IT WHERE?
AND HOW MUCH SHOULD THE PAYMENT BE?

WE APPRECIATE THE INFO AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

REGARDS

A. LALLI

[20-03-2008,16:55]
[**.157.17.230]
ANTONIA
(in reply to: LOST L.I. LIVE OVERSEAS)
are you a permanent resident of Canada or a citzen and what have you done to prove you have not abandoned Canada?

not sure that you are entitled to seniors pension.

[20-03-2008,18:08]
[**.155.160.37]
Sharon
(in reply to: LOST L.I. LIVE OVERSEAS)
based on your 65-72 dates - you do not qualify for any sort of Canadian pension.

this is from the Services Canada website


Payment outside Canada: Once a full or partial Old Age Security pension has been approved, it may be paid indefinitely outside Canada, if the pensioner has lived in Canada for at least 20 years after reaching 18 years of age. Otherwise, payment may be made only for the month of a pensioner´s departure from Canada and for six additional months, after which payment is suspended. The benefit may be reinstated if the pensioner returns to live in Canada and meets all conditions of eligibility.

The Guaranteed Income Supplement and the Allowance may be paid outside Canada for only six months following the month of departure from Canada regardless of the length of time you have lived in Canada.

Reconsidering and appealing a decision: Old Age Security clients may request an explanation or a reconsideration of any decision that affects their eligibility or the amount of their Old Age Security pension. This request must be made in writing to their Regional Director of Income Security Programs within 90 days of receiving a decision. If not satisfied with the decision of the Regional Director, the client may appeal, again within 90 days, to a Review Tribunal. If the grounds of appeal are income related, the appeal will be referred to the Tax Court of Canada for a decision.

See more information on The Old Age Security Appeals Process.

Old Age Security Pension
The Old Age Security pension is a monthly benefit available, if applied for, to most Canadians 65 years of age or over. Old Age Security residence requirements must also be met. An applicant´s employment history is not a factor in determining eligibility, nor does the applicant need to be retired. Old Age Security pensioners pay federal and provincial income tax. Higher income pensioners also repay part or all of their benefit through the tax system.

Eligibility conditions: To qualify for an Old Age Security pension, a person must be 65 years of age or over, and

must be a Canadian citizen or a legal resident of Canada on the day preceding the application´s approval; or


if no longer living in Canada, must have been a Canadian citizen or a legal resident of Canada on the day preceding the day he or she stopped living in Canada.
A minimum of 10 years of residence in Canada after reaching age 18 is required to receive a pension in Canada.

Amount of benefits: The amount of a person´s pension is determined by how long he or she has lived in Canada, according to the following rules:

A person who has lived in Canada, after reaching age 18, for periods that total at least 40 years, may qualify for a full Old Age Security pension;


A person who has not lived in Canada for 40 years after age 18 may still qualify for a full pension if, on July 1, 1977, he or she was 25 years of age or over, and


lived in Canada on July 1, 1977; or


had lived in Canada before July 1, 1977, after reaching age 18; or


possessed a valid immigration visa on July 1, 1977.
In such cases, a person must have lived in Canada for the 10 years immediately prior to approval of the Old Age Security application. Absences during this 10-year period may be offset if, after reaching the age of 18, the applicant lived in Canada before those 10 years, for a period of time that was at least three times the length of absence. In this case, however, the applicant must also have lived in Canada for at least one year immediately prior to the date of the application´s approval. For example, an absence of two years between the ages of 60 and 62 could be offset by six years of residence after age 18 and before reaching age 55.

Absences from Canada: Canadians working outside Canada for Canadian employers, such as the armed forces and banks, may have their time working abroad counted as residence in Canada. To qualify, the person must have returned to Canada within six months of ending employment or have turned 65 years old while still employed. Both proof of employment from the employer as well as proof of physically returning to Canada, if only for one day, must be provided. Under certain conditions, this provision may also apply to spouses and dependents and Canadians working abroad for international organizations.

A person who cannot meet the requirements for the full Old Age Security pension may qualify for a partial pension. A partial pension is earned at the rate of 1/40th of the full monthly pension for each full year lived in Canada after his or her 18th birthday. Once a partial pension has been approved, it may not be increased as a result of added years of residence in Canada.

Late applicants of the Old Age Security pension as well as the Guaranteed Income Supplement and Allowance may receive retroactive payments. Old Age Security, Guaranteed Income Supplement and Allowance payments may be made for up to 11 months plus the month in which we receive the application, provided all conditions of eligibility are met.

Old Age Security clients can request that their Old Age Security benefits be cancelled. They can have them reinstated at a later date. However, in such cases, no retroactive payments will be permitted.

[20-03-2008,18:17]
[**.155.160.37]
Sharon
(in reply to: LOST L.I. LIVE OVERSEAS)
Bravo Sharon. I was pissed off at your curt, rude-sounding words of your first post. But you came back with stark evidence and helped the poster and others as well.
[21-03-2008,15:45]
[***.202.38.47]
Elvii
(in reply to: LOST L.I. LIVE OVERSEAS)
the term ´abandoned Canada´ may sound harsh but those are the exact words Services Canada uses.

why someone who has not lived in Canada in 36 years with 7 years of residency expects ME (yes, taxpayer ME) to pay him a pension is beyond imagination.

He is lucky that is all I said.

[21-03-2008,15:54]
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Sharon
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