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Subject: Texas, Rhode Island, Ohio
  Well Richard how R U this morning?

I just finished shoveling 15 cm of snow from the lane way and I feel terrific! A little bit of snow that seems never to stop in the Toronto area can not get me down today!

Common Sense has prevailed south of our border!

Way to go Hillary!!!!! Go Hillary Go!

Its one thing to support the feel good guy but its a totally different scenario when you have to put food on your table. Its silly to select someone on the basis of gender, race or religion.

Supporting someone who basically says, PRESENT when called to make a decision one way or the other is illogical but at lest few would get upset with Obama at the time, with a vote of PRESENT!

That decisive action! LOL

Here´s hoping G. W. endorses McCain today!

A man´s word is what counts and did his flip flop over NAFTA hurt? It showed Obama is a rookie! Never state that you know what others wrote regarding an issue that you had little control over. He may be good himself but the buck has to stop somewhere and he was responsible. The Canadians are not stupid and understand that certain things are campaign rhetoric!

Hillary needs to stay focused on the super delegates and to use Bill with all of his connections that have been earned over three + decades.

Hillary the economy, focus on the economy, its all about the economy!

A town in Vermont voted to arrest G.W. Bush and Dick Chenney!

Is not politics grand.

Make sure the beer is chilled Sharon.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com


[05-03-2008,10:09]
[**.52.219.241]
Roy
(in reply to: Texas, Rhode Island, Ohio)
Good morning, Roy. All I have to say is blah, blah, blah. We´ll see what happens in the upcoming states. Maybe Harper´s wife can take over as next PM. That´s about the qualifications your preference has.

I like Toronto a lot. Been there a couple times and always impressed how it looks like a clean and organized version of Chicago, although a little smaller.

Still wondering what the Canadian consulate in Chicago was thinking. They initiated contact with the Obama campaign first.

[05-03-2008,11:11]
[**.53.224.249]
Richard
(in reply to: Texas, Rhode Island, Ohio)
Richard be gracious in defeat!

Your guy got a blow in the diaphragm and I´m sure he will try to bounce back especially in States with a large Black population like Mississippi. The issue is this the economy which is being dragged down by the war in Iraq, the war on drugs, the war on illegal immigration, the war on ______ etc.

Normally one would say if they really love their wife that behind every great man is a woman. Do you really not think that bills 40+ years in the political arena that Hillary has not made any connections? That Bill not benefit from her advice?

Obama experience is a couple years as a State Senator and then a couple years as a Senator from Illinois. WOW "I have a dream", NOT!

In Canada our system is different and not based on the Six Nations.

If you choose to join a political party for your own particular riding that is your choice. Then you can normally have a say in the selection of the candidate for your riding unless the head of the political party parachutes some favorite of his/her in.

For the leader of the party each riding sends people to that parties National convention and they secretly vote.

You never vote for the Leader of the party directly in a Canadian Federal election but only for the person in your ridings that are running. Indirectly the leader gets a vote.

Now Israel, Race, Religion, Abortion, Gender, Ethnic Origin Age for some reason never seems to enter into a Canadian Federal Election.

I can not explain why they don´t enter the election other then that Canadians think that its what inside the person that counts not all the outward trappings.

Its what they stand for and against that counts.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com




[05-03-2008,12:38]
[**.158.53.207]
Roy
(in reply to: Texas, Rhode Island, Ohio)
I think this was a big win for Clinton, and I don´t see a happy ending for the Democrats in the near future.... all that money wasted on campaigns.... sigh !!!

Anyway, I think the US president has to deal with much more global issues than his/her counterpart across the border to the North. That should pretty much answer the question why many issues don´t even enter the Federal Elections, I mean I don´t think there is even a tiny bit comparison between the two. Why don´t we find out how the president of Iceland is elected... HA HA ! So its natural that all different issues are attacked during the presidential campaign in the USA.

As far as the Clinton/Obama battle goes, no matter who becomes the president, life is going to be real tough after that, this is the easy part, so let them enjoy !!
Thank God, finally Huckabee backed out ! good for the GOP now that they can concentrate on the important stuff.

Later guys...

[05-03-2008,12:54]
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Raj
(in reply to: Texas, Rhode Island, Ohio)
From CBC News today. Confirms the Conservative Party´s apparent involvement in Obama´s difficulties yesterday:

NDP Leader Layton accused Harper himself of "interference," alleging the prime minister personally authorized the leak in order to discredit the Obama camp and aid the Republicans, a charge Harper vehemently denied.

"The reality is what we´re talking about here is a report that someone in the consulate to Chicago wrote to their superior," Harper responded. "There are literally thousands of documents like this written around the world by Canadian officials. It´s ridiculous to think that the prime minister´s office even ever sees these documents."

Liberal foreign affairs critic Bob Rae said it was clear the Tories are trying to help Republican friends at the expense of Canadian interests.

"They will do what is necessary to help Republicans. They´re a nasty, unprincipled bunch, who are incompetent to boot," Rae wrote in a blog.

The controversy could play to the Republicans´ advantage in November and hurt the Illinois senator in Ohio, a potential swing state where job losses have made the 15-year-old free-trade deal highly unpopular.

[05-03-2008,13:22]
[**.53.224.249]
Richard
(in reply to: Texas, Rhode Island, Ohio)
Raj my reply was also based on SutarB comment HA HA!

"If this happens in the south border, the northern neighbours like it or not, will be directly affected.

It is not the fact that issues are attacked or not Raj it is why are they there in the first place as SutarB claims that they are sooooooo important.

Why do the US news networks talk about Gender?
Why do the US news networks talk about Race?
Why do the US news networks talk about Religion?
Why do the US news networks talk about Abortion?

The US system was set up based on the Six Nations system of the men coming up with an idea and then the men would take it to the women for approval. You knew that right Raj?

I have no idea what AIPAC stands for in SutarB comment maybe you or him could inform me what it stands for.

How many countries go through such a lengthy selection and election process as the Americans do and why should someone not compare when others claim Canada will be directly affected?

Hillary has already hinted today that she would consider Obama as her Vice President Raj! Would that not make a happy ending???????

Hillary as President and Obama as her Vice President I could see the Republicans crying.



Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[05-03-2008,13:26]
[**.158.53.207]
Roy
(in reply to: Texas, Rhode Island, Ohio)
Roy... a usual you are at your hilarious best !!
Anyways, I think the US news talks about those issues because the politicians keep that in mind when they are campaigning, only difference is that in the US its quite open. I think these issues you mentioned are prevalent everywhere in the election process, but in some places (I guess Canada too) its visible only if you are involved in the close circles during the political campaign. You see Roy, why that happens is because "birds of a feather flock together".... you have heard of that right ?
So like they were saying yesterday, in Texas Obama scored in all the big cities, and Hillary won in the rural area... why ? precisely the above reason, now even in Canada similar situations might happen.... its basically how to get more votes, nothing else.... happens all the time. Why did NAFTA get into the election debate so late ? Because Hillary realized Ohio is big on unions and have had negative impact on jobs, why did she not talk more about it in the earlier debates... its not that hard to figure things out, cmon Roy, you can do better, basic point is that those issues are there everywhere, in US even the media discusses that as this country is crazy about stats.

[05-03-2008,14:30]
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Raj
(in reply to: Texas, Rhode Island, Ohio)
the Jack Layton and Bob Rae comments are political theatre. They blame the conservatives for anything that moves. It is a luxury they have as a party that will likely never be in a position to form a goverment.

It was a bad week for Obama. Whether it is he, himself or his team around him... they did some pretty dumb things. I would like to see him brush himself off and go back at it. I give Hillary this much... she sure does not give up.

I find the obvious absence of Bill very telling and agree with most commentators that this has helped her campaign. I cannot image any scenario where he would be able to remain arms length from the Oval office. To some that may be a positive thing, but I am sensing that most people would prefer he stay out of it.

The NAFTA discussion is an easy cover for a changing world. We are losing so many of our manufacturing jobs to technology and automation. All the agreements in the world will not bring back those jobs. Traditional industries may be going the way of the dodo bird. How many coal miners will not have work in 20 years because of alternative fuels and what will those workers do for a living. Sort of like the blacksmith in the 20´s. Change or die. NAFTA or the lack of NAFTA will never change that.

Roy, like I said in the other post... us Canucks should be a little less blood thirsty on this one. We don´t like the political interference any more than our US friends. Yes, I owe you a beer.

[05-03-2008,15:04]
[**.155.160.37]
Sharon
(in reply to: Texas, Rhode Island, Ohio)
Adding to that I have to say that the reason politicians campaign is not to convince voters who have already decided who to vote, but those who are sitting on the fence or who can flip easily and change their minds at the last moment, and for them all that matters is the current state of affairs, they don´t look beyond that, and thats why NAFTA was so important for Hillary. I lived in Texas for a while and the Latinos have benefited a lot because of that, and there lies the reason why she won there, not because she is the right candidate or something. If the south west Texas belt had backed off, Obama would have come out winner from there, not that it matters much as far as the delegates go because at 51% you win and at 49% you lose.... but the loser may end up with more delegates.... just like how Bush was elected in the General Elections.... crazy !!
[05-03-2008,15:37]
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Raj
(in reply to: Texas, Rhode Island, Ohio)
in our system, the province is divided by geography. one elected representative for each district. Whichever party has the most representatives, forms the government with their predetermined leader. we get into some strange phenomena with popular vote as well but our problem is more national distibution of population. Ontario can almost determine who runs the country.

Because we have so many parties at the moment, Harper can run the country with 39% of the popular vote - that´s crazy too.

[05-03-2008,16:27]
[**.155.160.37]
Sharon
(in reply to: Texas, Rhode Island, Ohio)
The other thing that amazed me as different is that the media was releasing actual poll votes before all the polls were closed.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[05-03-2008,17:17]
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Roy