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Hi Richard,
I visited Toronto recently and talked to my prospective employer. Here are my thoughts, Toronto is a very developed and clean city but I think it kind of lacks something, it seems like it is not a happy city, I don´t know how to describe, but people are living there just because they have to, and not because they want to. May be I am comparing it to the usa but I did not like it. I am with a consulting company in the usa, so have to depend on it for project and have to move around, so was considering moving to canada to get a permanancy in life, but it seems like I will still need to travel within Canada anyway.
The fact is that I don´t immediately have to move to Canada, I can still be outside of the country for 2.5 years, on the other side my us gc can take anywhere between 2.5 to 3.5 years.. imagine a situation where I get past three years, I will lose my canada gc , but still would have not gotten my us gc,and what if at that time I don´t get my us gc for some reason ? Also, if I decide to move to canada after two years from now, what if I don´t have a job at that time ? so it is this fear that wants me to take the job in canada, even though I don´t like it. Please advise and may be help be see the better side, who knows I am blinded right now.
To tell you the truth, if I had my us green card, I would have never considered moving to Canada, I have nothing against immigration,but Toronto seems to be infested with oriental immigrants, so much so that it looks like a chinese city, I am not favoring whites here, but where did they all go ? I wanted to move to Canada and not China ?
Looking for your reply
Brian
[15-05-2007,02:55]
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(in reply to: To Richard)
yes i am agree with you brian. i am from uk and i recently visited toronto, this city miss something, it is not a happening city. i am from uk and i was thinking of moving to canada because uk is a expensive country to live but now i think we got a better life style here in uk and now i am not moving to canada for good.
[15-05-2007,07:41]
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bains |
(in reply to: To Richard)
If you got better life style in UK why did you think firt of moving to Canada ?
I have also visited Toronto and when you spend a couple of years of your life in a small US town with less than 30,000 people, you really do find Toronto a happening city with a great multicultural background.
I don´t understand why people in this forum are complaining about Canada if this forum is all about immigrating there.
Also how can you compare Canada and China ? just because they are a lot of Chinese ? I bet you missed all the Koreans, Japanese, Vietnamese, Thai ... and so on.
[15-05-2007,12:39]
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CBV333 |
(in reply to: To Richard)
Toronto is one of the most dynamic and multicultural cities in the world; I can´t imagine thinking it dull, no matter where you are from. That said, if you didn´t like it, why are you thinking about moving there? It sounds to me like you have major soul searching to do, and there isn´t anyone who can help you with answering those questions but you. You said yourself that you wouldn´t consider moving there if only you had your green card, and it sounds like eventually you will. Remember that you are asking a country to take you in, and that there should be some expectation that you will be loyal to your new home. If you don´t feel that loyalty in your heart, why are you considering such a move? Good luck with your decisions.
[15-05-2007,14:34]
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wannabecanadian |
(in reply to: To Richard)
Hey guys,
Don´t criticize Brian for making sure that one of the biggest decisions one can make in life is correct. I understand Brian´s reevaluation, especialy considering that current arrangements will be broken, disrupted, and irrecoverable, i.e, job, career, housing, finances, etc.
You really never know how things are elsewhere unless you try and experience it. And there´s nothing wrong with changing your mind based on what you find. Too many people lack the courage to consider living in other countries because of the fear of failure. And that´s a shame because we can all learn from experiencing life in other cultures - whther we ultimately make the long-term change or not.
I for one don´t want to be the typical American who knows nothing about the rest of the world and makes no attempt to understand other people and places. So kudos to all of us here who want to immigrate to Canada, whether we decide it´s ultimately right for us or not.
[15-05-2007,15:04]
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Richard |
(in reply to: To Richard)
Hi All,
Thanks for your responses, they do help and I agree that I am so super confused at this time. I had certain expectations from Canada and may be I need to set them right. The fact is that Canada is a nice country to move to and one can enjoy all the freedom, but may be because I am moving from USA and that is why it is getting a little tough.
I wanted to belive the other way round, but could not stay away for long, from the fact that USA is any time better that Canada. Most of the Canadian I talked to have a desire or atleast had one in the past to move to USA.
Thanks,
Brian
[15-05-2007,16:21]
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Anonymous |
(in reply to: To Richard)
Hi Brian
Yes I agree what you said I am in vancouver and its the same man!!!If you ahve lived in US for a while or for a long time it is not as easy to adjuct in Canada and above that if you od not have a job then it is more uncomfortable but give a try maybe as things get better you feel better.Every country has its own merits and demerits everywhere you find all cultures.
[15-05-2007,17:55]
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sally |
(in reply to: To Richard)
Also to add that the Canadian economy is atleast 70% dependent on American economy, seems like every canadian born college graduate has a desire to find a job in America !
America, by far still the first choice to immigrate, you have so much freedom to move around; in case you don´t like the cold weather move to california, south carolina, florida.. sometimes I feel jeolous of all the people who were born in American, they don´t realize how lucky they are.
Brian.
[15-05-2007,18:18]
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Anonymous |
(in reply to: To Richard)
I totally agree with Richard, and have also recently found myself with an unexpected case of cold feet. I am all of a sudden terrified of leaving our comfortable lifestyle (secure job, nice house, great neighborhood, lots of friends etc) for the completely unknown, particularly if we find ourselves moving without secured employment. I agree that it is best to question your motives or interests in moving before making the commitment, and think it is wise that Brian is trying to do just that. We have so many friends who console us with "Well, if it doesn´t work out, you can always just come back!", but the reality is, the job would be gone, our house will have sold and real estate prices increased, and we´ve never really felt home where we are anyway.
So it is with understanding that I advise Brian to undergo as much soul searching as he needs to before making any commitments. Sometimes you can have done all the research in the world when you decide to immigrate, only to find yourself questioning the decision when the time comes to actually pack up your life and move.
[15-05-2007,18:58]
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wannabecanadian |
(in reply to: To Richard)
Couldn´t agree more with wannabe, and thoughts expressed. We also find ourselves in the same situation.
It seems Brian does too. What occurs to me is that we should keep our options open. We went to much effort to get PR status and should not waste the opportunity. It´s a once in a lifetime option. I´d suggest consider living and working in Canada for a year before uprooting completely. This might be difficult financially and might split some family members for a while. But it´s really the only way to know if it´s the right decision without losing everything gained so far. Otherwise it´s an all or nothing situation.
Sally´s point is well-taken on every place have its pluses and minuses. And bains comments on comparative life in the UK and thoughts on moving enlightening.
I think we have to soul-search, assess, and reconsider the underlying reasons for applying and if those reasons are what we truly want in life. But I would truly regret losing such this opportunity.
[15-05-2007,19:42]
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Richard |
(in reply to: To Richard)
Okay guys
we all will give a try here in canada after all the time we spent in getting the PR and if things do not workk for you the way you want them to be then we can think it over where to move do not worry for now yes it is hard being away from friends family dear and nearer ones for a while but lets make new friends and try to be happy where ever we are.I like to share this kind of feelings cause it is always good to get it out of your sysytem.I surely agree that in US you do have freedom to move wherever you want .As wannabe canadian mentioned we can always go back okay now CHEERUP and LETS aLL be HAPPY
[15-05-2007,21:31]
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