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Subject: Quebec Without French
  Is it possible to apply for Quebec Immigration without the slightest knowledge of French and yet receive "a Certificat de s?lection du Qu?bec" after applying?

I´ve been to Quebec Immigration website and went through the evaluation process, and then received "You appear to meet Qu?bec´s selection criteria. You can now submit an official immigration application. "
I´ve heard somewhere on this forum that I have to have at least a basic knowledge of French, but I made sure my reply to the evaluation question was "None" for the French language.

So, my Q again: Is it possible to meet the immigration criteria for Quebec without any French language knowledge?

Appreciate your responses.

[19-02-2006,17:19]
[***.202.92.160]
English Speaker
(in reply to: Quebec Without French)
Thats an interesting question though...
[19-02-2006,17:22]
[**.222.102.211]
Abijan
(in reply to: Quebec Without French)
CIC allows you to live in any province you choose. However, if you are looking to use the Quebec selection as a quicker route, I believe CIC will require french skills - otherwise, everyone would just apply to Quebec.
[19-02-2006,17:58]
[***.20.170.23]
Sharon
(in reply to: Quebec Without French)
The Quebec Government has the right to choose the immigrants he wants. So, once you are "selected" by Quebec, CIC has nothing to say, as long as you pass the medical and the security check which are CIC´s responsibility.

I have lived in Quebec all my life and, believe me, many immigrants arrived here without the slightest knowledge of French. Once you arrive here, you are entitled to 8 months of full-time study of French and you are given a certain amount of money to do so.

Hope this helps.

Good luck.

[19-02-2006,19:10]
[**.203.127.225]
Anonymous
(in reply to: Quebec Without French)
Quebec selection has a reputation of being quicker. if what you are saying is accurate, why does not ever PR applicant go through Quebec selection? I would!

There is nothing to force people to stay where they land - so please help me understand how this works.

[19-02-2006,19:14]
[***.20.170.23]
Sharon
(in reply to: Quebec Without French)
Beware, there´s a 6 month waiting list for paid French courses (full time) - you can´t just come on over and start one instead of getting a job. I have a friend who´s applied for Quebec and who doesn´t speak a word of French, but she hasn´t heard if she´s been accepted yet.

It might be possible, but it´s almost impossible to get a job here without a pretty good command of the lang - so I have to ask, why would you emigrate here if you can´t get a job here?

[19-02-2006,19:26]
[**.37.48.242]
mklmkl
(in reply to: Quebec Without French)
mklmkl... this is the part that has puzzled me forever. There is nothing that I am aware of, (hence, I am hoping someone will educate me) that can prevent a Quebec selection, landing and then immediate exit of the province for ´greener pastures´.

There must be some covenants that are undertaken. Otherwise ever last PR in the system should be applying through Quebec so that they can pre-empt CIC criteria.

It confuses me no end and I cannot seem to find a straight answer anywhere.

[19-02-2006,19:35]
[***.20.170.23]
Sharon
(in reply to: Quebec Without French)
To Sharon,

When you are selected by Quebec, you MUST sign a paper in which you promise to do everything possible to make your immigration a success IN Quebec. So that means that you MUST not leave for another province. For how long? I don´t know. If you do leave, what will happen? Still, I don´t know.

As far as working in Quebec if you don´t speak French, it is almost impossible outside of Montreal. In Montreal, it is still difficult if you really don´t speak French.

There is a waiting list for the full time French courses, but probably not 6 months. But it is much faster to study part-time. It is always possible to begin part time and study full time later.

Sharon, I really hope that your guy will be in Canada very soon. Do not forget to inform us. There are more people that you think that will be very happy for you.

[20-02-2006,01:43]
[**.203.127.225]
Anonymous
(in reply to: Quebec Without French)
I don´t think Quebec is all that much faster when done via Buffalo. I applied for my CSQ in August 2004. I got it in June 05. Applied with it at Buffalo, and now waiting. It may be faster than federal when done in other parts of the world though.
[20-02-2006,12:43]
[***.232.75.187]
Anonymous
(in reply to: Quebec Without French)
Quebec chooses its own immigrants, according to a mutal agreement with ottawa, they have established a similar point system to the federal with some difference, for example they give more points to french language than english, they also give points for ties to Quebec and they have a list of jobs in high demand which give you extra points, some fields of study are also prefered educaiotn and training which give you extra points, so if you reach the pass mark (60 for single or 68 for married) you will be aproved and receive your CSQ it does not need to speak french, as long as you reach the pass mark, but it would be difficult to do so unless you have good experiance in a high demand job with good education and age, english..etc other factors, if you give me more details I can calculate your points exactly but there are 10 points given during interview concerning personal charachters and motivations.

the other point which Sharon raised regarding leaving Quebec once landed, be aware that all Quebec applicants are needed to sign a declaration which states that they intend to reside in Quebec, if you lie in this you might be in trouble, so you MUST try to settle in Quebec, if you try but fail and choose to leave then it should be in acord with your declaration but simply using Quebec to go elsewhere means risking your status which would be based on fraud information.

[20-02-2006,19:14]
[**.137.136.90]
mts
(in reply to: Quebec Without French)
Trust me, the waiting list is 6 months, I applied for the French courses 2 months ago and they said it´s that and getting longer (more people immigrate in the summer).

They ´expect´ you to be in Quebec at least 6 months and to have proof that you´ve tried to settle and apply for jobs here, etc. If not 6 months, then at least a reasonable time period. They can tell from tax forms for one thing where and when you are in a certain place.

I am finding it pretty darned hard to settle in Quebec as there are just no skilled jobs at all and preference is always for the francophones. So I might have to move, myself. In my case I applied as a common law partner so going via Quebec actually took longer than going federally because I needed the CSQ. But good luck to anyone who applies.

[20-02-2006,19:48]
[**.37.48.242]
mklmkl