RE:Potential change in government #2

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Subject: RE:Potential change in government #2
  Sharon, Dennis, Typo
So you think pass mark will not get raised? and in case it got raised it will not be retroactively?? So many views here but I really need yours as u r in Canada and can see what others out of Canda can´t see. Once I asked in another forum an immigration lawyer and he said u can increase your point by learning another language or get maser it will take u 2 years and processing of files in CIC now is more than 2 years so u can go for that option :):):)
I answered him OKKK I´ll give a year and if u can count with my native languge from one to ten I´ll give 1000$ just counting ten digits with clear words and pronociation. We hardly passed IELTS and the lawyer wants us to pass a new languge we never used in our life. Or get master as if I´ll go to buy it from SUper market. Those guys hands are in colde water ours in boiling one.


Regards,

[05-12-2005,19:08]
[***.205.128.237]
Romantic Warrior
(in reply to: RE:Potential change in government #2)
I don´t know what else to tell you beyond what we have already said. I am hearing ZERO talk of changing the pass mark. Lots of other ideas but passmark is not one of them. The overlying sentiment in Canada is that we need to get the right people into the country to do the right jobs. we need to make it happen quicker and more efficiently. Like Dennis has already said - Immigration might see very small policy changes- like John Volpe announced last month, but it is way down the list of public importance behind tax cuts, health care, crime, and daycare.

If anything, future changes will likely help you- not hurt you.

Forget the second language idea. Unless you are going to Quebec, you are wasting your time and money. More education- only if it helps you accomplish your personal goals.

hope that helps.

[05-12-2005,19:27]
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Sharon
(in reply to: RE:Potential change in government #2)
Not true what you said about second language, Sharon. If you learn French at either the basic, moderate or advanced level, you get more points depending on what level. It doesn´t matter what place you go to in Canada.
[05-12-2005,19:59]
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catocan
(in reply to: RE:Potential change in government #2)
Sharon,

I guess next time you talk something ... you´ll need professional help (such as, lawyer). Whatever you say, discuss, and/or share ... is misinterpreted. Watch your back gul:))

Catocan, I strongly believe Sharon wanted to say learning French will not help much (our life is so busy and things are so expensive these days). Rather do something that will help to face the reality (such as complete a professional certification test etc etc). But as you said too, nothinng is unworthy...learning a foreign language is a wealth of life.

Take it easy fellas!

[05-12-2005,20:19]
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Sammy
(in reply to: RE:Potential change in government #2)
RW, here´s a link to the official explanation on how rules would affect applicants the last time there was a major change:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/irpa/transitional-overview.html

I´m pasting the relevant part below:

"...The new dual assessment will allow applicants to be assessed using the selection criteria of the former Immigration Act, or IRPA, whichever is more favourable. In cases where the result is not positive using one set of selection criteria, the application will automatically be assessed under the selection criteria of the other regulations."

There is no reason to believe matters will be treated any differently this time around (assuming there is a change in the passmark). As I´ve said in my previous posts, there are legal implications here, and it´s not something that is treated lightly.

Groups that stand for immigrant protection are both active and willing to take matters to court on issues like this. I think it´s fairly safe to say that those who have already applied can expect to be assessed by rules in place *at the time of application*, not what the government of the day decides later on.

To Sharon (quote: "Typo... I am a social democrate and fiscal conservative. what to do!"):

Ah, isn´t that like wanting to have your cake and eat it to? My dilemma is less pronounced... I like Layton, but only if he´d consider taking over at the Liberal helm.


[05-12-2005,20:28]
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typo
(in reply to: RE:Potential change in government #2)
Romantic Warrior asked me a specific question. He has applied with adequate points and is 2 years into his application. he is nervous about point requirements going up and wants to hedge his bet. It has been suggested to him that he could start to learn french and perhaps qualify for a few extra points. He already says how hard the english was... what would I do in his place -

my advice to him stands.

[05-12-2005,20:33]
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Sharon
(in reply to: RE:Potential change in government #2)
Sharon - you go girl! I really admire your relentless effort in helping others. I am surprised that many people read anything (and everything) that you say and mis-interpret it.

On the other side, you are probably the most sought after person on this forum for sincere advise.

My best wishes to you.

ME

[05-12-2005,21:13]
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ME
(in reply to: RE:Potential change in government #2)
Typo... I have the perfect solution. We will have Layton become leader of the Liberals and Harper can be the Finance Minister.
[05-12-2005,21:19]
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Sharon
(in reply to: RE:Potential change in government #2)
Sounds good to me! Harper´s plan to cut the GST is about his only proposal I support.

Actually, there´s that other other Harper stance I support, me being Catholic and all...

[05-12-2005,22:03]
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typo
(in reply to: RE:Potential change in government #2)
I suspect Harper is on a mission to lay our his HIDDEN agenda.
[05-12-2005,22:20]
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Sharon
(in reply to: RE:Potential change in government #2)
Sharon, Typo
I don´t know how to thank even if the pass mark got raised to 100 points. Sorry for so much arguing from me but belive me some countries mine included when a governmnet get changed, they change every thing as if a group of donkeys were managing the country just before them and tehn things go wrosen coz they statrt every thing from scratch and so onoooooo.

Regarding attracting skill men in jobs like bricklayers, carpenter ... etc this is really difficult in terms of assessment gudilines in place now in CIC. U can´t expect a carpenter in any country to speak 2 languges or have maser or even bachelor. Despite of those guys I know who bulit entire cities in my country and are very very ver professional but they cant secure 40 points in CIC assessment. I wish I could guide them to CIC and I´m sure if Canada really needs them, there should be a way to bring them other than English, French, Master, Bachlor, RELATIVES IN CANADA......those guys would really help Canada to boom more and more.

Sharon, as ME said here u r so helpful, sincer,... but they only bad thing in you is YOUR NAME I think you know why we hate your nameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee but we love you in person so muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. God bless u my dear.

Typo, plz accept my regards for your kind words as well.

Thanks guys

[06-12-2005,00:58]
[***.205.128.237]
Romantic Warrior